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02-09-2018, 05:15 PM
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No power to front light switch panels or for front slides
Been set up in our 2008 Dynasty for a week, everything was fine, then no power at front light switch panels which include switches for the front slides. I have checked all fuses in the three electrical bays and their all OK. Any thoughts on what might be the problem? Thanks in advance, Kevin.
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02-09-2018, 05:36 PM
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Push button fuse on inverter?
We had that problem back in October and it turned out to be one of the push button fuses on the inverter. Might be worth a look.
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02-09-2018, 06:17 PM
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Thanks Jerry, I,ll check it out!
Kevin
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02-09-2018, 06:27 PM
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Is there a fuse panel in the bedroom closet??
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02-09-2018, 06:32 PM
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Sounds like one of your continuous solenoids are going bad, look in your motor compartment, passenger side, mine is located behind panel cover with 4 nuts holding cover, solenoids look like early Ford starter solenoids, check to see if you have power across terminals, sometimes a tap on top of solenoid gets them going again, also flipping your salesman switch on and off may get them going, my Exec also has 2 in front electrical panel below drivers window. You can buy replacement solenoids at Napa Auto Parts. I always keep an extra one on board. Good Luck
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02-09-2018, 07:03 PM
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It doesn't appear to be the inverter, no push button breakers on mine Jerry. Yes, Myron there is a fuse panel in the bedroom closet, I checked them, all OK! Great idea about the solenoids in motor compartment electrical box! I will check those in the morning. Thanks much for the feedback! I'll let you know what I fine out.
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02-09-2018, 09:00 PM
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Try either turning off your "Salesman switch", or your coach battery disconnect. There is a good chance you just need to "re-boot" your Intellitec processor. You will have to turn on things like your AquaHot again, as well as any other loads you normally leave powered.
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02-10-2018, 06:36 AM
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Back in business!! I turned off shore power and the battery disconnects then back on and that did it! Thanks so much for everyone's suggestions, really appreciate it!
Oh, by the way, what is the "Salesman Switch"?
Kevin
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02-10-2018, 07:07 AM
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Glad you got it fixed. Sounds like the suggestion that a solenoid is not making contact is probably the issue.
Welcome, you have found a great forum. Lots of helpful folks with an unbounding depth of knowledge.
One of the best tools on this forum is the Search feature. Just type in a bit of your question and it will take you to pages of information gleaned from this forum.
I am not trying to suggest not posting any questions, please do but keep in mind it may have been answered a hundred times and someone that has answered it before may not be inclined to do a big response.
The little green box above and to the right area as shown in the picture is the search box to use. Ignore the other little search line below that. It is useless.
Type in Salesman Switch in the box and you will get many pages of fine reading.
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02-10-2018, 07:30 AM
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Actually, it is just like when your computer starts giving you fits, RE-BOOT! The Intellitec processor can, on occasion, lose communication with one or more of the remote keypads. Some seem to be more finicky than others. With our coach, it is the keypad in the bathroom. When that happens, removing the power to the processor (i.e. shutting down the coach 12V) OR unplugging the three-conductor cable at the keypad, will re-establish communication between the processor and the keypad and restore operation.
"Vectoruvw", the "Salesman Switch" is the rocker or toggle switch by your entry door that toggles, in your case, two relays in your rear run box. Together, they power virtually all of the non-safety related (CO2, propane, etc.) 12 volt loads associated with the coach systems. That switch allows the salesman on the lot to bring people into the rig and easily power the coach up and then back down when they leave, to minimize the draw on the battery without having to find the right bay door to open, and then knowing which switch to disconnect the coach battery. It is a great idea in theory, but unfortunately there are still some loads connected that make it a partial solution, at best. But it sure does work to re-boot the Intellitec controller. Yay!
Also, thankfully, at this point there is no indication that you have any issues with any of your solenoids. Another Yay!! And Myron is right. Do the search, and you will learn LOTS about this subject and many more!
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02-10-2018, 07:37 AM
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Thanks for the info, I'll spent some time learning the site! Glad to be here!
Kevin
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02-10-2018, 04:37 PM
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The salesman switch is the only switch that we’ve covered with a pop bottle lid to keep from accidentally hitting. Don’t ask me how I know this can happen.
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02-10-2018, 04:51 PM
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There is a very good chance you will continue to have this problem in the future until you locate the sticky solenoid, you are bumping solenoid by turning power off and on, mine did that for a couple of months before I decided to locate problem. Good Luck
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02-10-2018, 05:16 PM
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Outbound, you are so right. Those solenoids can be very troublesome. We have had trouble in the past, too, but with our Big Boy. Our problem came in the first year of the coach's life. I took it apart and cleaned it up good, and it has worked flawlessly for about eleven years, now. Yay! That was a win.
Fortunately in his case, it was entirely an Intellitec problem. I don't know if Monaco put the microprocessor based Intellitec system in their '02 luxury coach series like yours, or not. Regardless, it is a great system where all of the switch pads are connected only by a data bus to the microprocessor and all of the switching is done in a somewhat hidden cabinet, usually in the back of the coach, somewhere. There are no current carrying conductors behind any of the coach switch-pads, only a data bus and power supply cable. Our system was installed in an overhead cabinet by the bed. Some are in the closet.
The only reason the solenoid that you are referencing was even in the conversation was that it would be the easiest and quickest way to power down the Intellitec system to re-boot it. If the solenoid you are referencing were bad, none of his coach lighting, fans, pumps or slides would have worked. His problem in this case was with only one of as many as a dozen distributed keypads.
Now, let's just hope that his "salesman switch" solenoids and his "Big Boy" treat him well. Fortunately the two that are operated by the salesman switch do not operate often, and even when they do, they don't normally have to make or break high currents like the Big Boy normally does. So their life could easily exceed the life of the coach.
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