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12-06-2018, 10:05 PM
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Norcold - Shut off Propane?
Hi Guys!
Even though our Norcold has had at least 4 or 5 updates I'm still concerned about the fire hazard. It seems to me that if I disabled the ability for it to run on propane then the fire hazard would largely be negated.
Since I'm in a park on a long-term lot with electricity propane ability is not of any importance. This brings to mind the idea, can I kill the propane to the fridge altogether and that way it cannot run on propane? Is there a valve that can be closed at the fridge?
This would buy me time until I could get the Amish Helium cooling unit.
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12-06-2018, 10:30 PM
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Fire can happen using electric ...not limited to propane
Gas Valve MAY have a shutoff on body of valve (slotted disc that can be turned)
Even if it doesn't you can just remove the leads on solenoid and tape them off---no DC to gas valve & valve can't open
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12-06-2018, 10:43 PM
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Nothing wears out a valve like using it. If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is!
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12-07-2018, 08:06 AM
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X2! Good advice!  
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12-07-2018, 09:49 AM
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On ours there was not an individual propane shut off valve just for the refrigerator. The copper porpane line runs from the basement ceiling area up through the floor to the back of the fridge. You would have to disconnect and cap the line.
However, I don't think that is going to alleviate the issue. The problem is the hydrogen and amonia gas inside the cooling system.
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12-07-2018, 09:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vito.a
On ours there was not an individual propane shut off valve just for the refrigerator. The copper porpane line runs from the basement ceiling area up through the floor to the back of the fridge. You would have to disconnect and cap the line.
However, I don't think that is going to alleviate the issue. The problem is the hydrogen and amonia gas inside the cooling system.
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I agree with Vito. There was no shut off for the fridge, just the valve at the tank which shuts off propane to the whole coach. The fire hazard is what's in the cooling plumbing, not the propane.
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12-07-2018, 11:31 AM
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Unplug the power leads on gas valve solenoid...tape them off
No DC no gas valve operation.....fridge, furnace, water heater etc
No having to disconnect ANY propane line/fitting and cap off
It is a means to disable propane to an appliance....IF that is what OP chooses to do.
Simple, effective and requires no tools
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12-08-2018, 06:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobJones
Hi Guys!
Even though our Norcold has had at least 4 or 5 updates I'm still concerned about the fire hazard. It seems to me that if I disabled the ability for it to run on propane then the fire hazard would largely be negated.
Since I'm in a park on a long-term lot with electricity propane ability is not of any importance. This brings to mind the idea, can I kill the propane to the fridge altogether and that way it cannot run on propane? Is there a valve that can be closed at the fridge?
This would buy me time until I could get the Amish Helium cooling unit.
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I think the question is, Is it the propane that is the reason for the fires or is it a malfunction in the electric or an electric component that starts the fires? I’m not sure, but, I’m sure that propane is an excellent fire source once it starts!
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12-08-2018, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ALLOY
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That’s good to know, Thank You![emoji4]
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12-08-2018, 11:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
Unplug the power leads on gas valve solenoid...tape them off
No DC no gas valve operation.....fridge, furnace, water heater etc
No having to disconnect ANY propane line/fitting and cap off
It is a means to disable propane to an appliance....IF that is what OP chooses to do.
Simple, effective and requires no tools
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Smart thinking - thanks for that!
A number of people have mentioned that the issue is still present (flammable gas in the fridge). While true, the fact that the ignition source has been removed from the equation (a large blue flame) should make it much safer.
I suspect that if one looked into all the fridge fires you would probably find that the fridges were running on propane at the time.
My theory is, take the flame away, then, if it is leaking, it should not ignite. At least until I can get an amish helium unit.
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