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Old 07-20-2016, 06:27 AM   #1
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Quick question about diesel suspension

We have a wonderful Newmar gas coach and we're thinking about switching to a diesel. And have found a Monaco Knight that at the current time, looks like something we would like. (Have not performed the PDI, etc.)

Issue I have is our garage only has a 12' door, and there is no room to raise it any. The Monaco Knight specs. show it is 12' 7" tall.....oh so close!

So my question is (and I don't know much about diesel air suspension) is does this unit have an air suspension that would enable me to lower the coach to get it into the garage?
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No. You can dump the air, but as soon as you put it in gear it will start to raise. You will not gain 7 inches anyway.
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Our '06 Dynasty is essentially the same height. When we dump the air, I would estimate that the coach comes down perhaps as much as 5", but surely no more than that. When it is "up", I can get a closed fist between the top of the tires and the well opening, and when its down, the tires are slightly, if any, above the top of the opening. So that's even "oh so close-er", but I'm thinking that it likely would not fit.

Crazy thought. Don't know if you are in a separate structure or part of your home, and whether you're surrounded by paving or natural ground. But is there any way to lower the floor and add a panel to the door? Lot of work and $$$, but could be an option? Maybe someone with a Knight of that vintage will have a more encouraging answer.
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We have a wonderful Newmar gas coach and we're thinking about switching to a diesel. And have found a Monaco Knight that at the current time, looks like something we would like. (Have not performed the PDI, etc.)

Issue I have is our garage only has a 12' door, and there is no room to raise it any. The Monaco Knight specs. show it is 12' 7" tall.....oh so close!

So my question is (and I don't know much about diesel air suspension) is does this unit have an air suspension that would enable me to lower the coach to get it into the garage?

I would get a laser level and measure the height of the coach. Many times the published figure has some wiggle room and is based on a representative coach. Depending on what is the high point on the coach, which is usually the dome sat dish, there might be a reasonable option. Losing the dome in favor of an open dish might save quite a bit of room.

Most likely not practical, but thinking out side the box, you could air the suspension down to the stops with the engine off and winch the coach in and drag it out.

The problem you are facing is not just with this Knight. Most DPs are going to be higher than 12'. My '03 was built before the switch to higher interior heights and it's 12'5".
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Thanks for the guidance and thoughts. Having to spend $20K to raise the garage roof to purchase a different coach sure changes the decision process!
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Here's another idea, but it's a bad one. Remember the old pictures of a truck wedged under a bridge? The solution was to let the air out of the tires. If you are really dead set on the knight, maybe a combination of dumping air and lowering tire pressure could work. However, even running on low tires for a short distance can't be good for them.
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As Steve said, let's think outside the box here. How about having a carpenter cut about a foot of the area above the doors out, with added support beams across at the new height, then suspending a piece of heavy canvas or lightweight rubber in the opening. That way it would just drag over the highest points on the coach as you go in and out without causing any damage.
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I used to have a trailer that failed to clear a door by a couple inches. I would drop the pressure in the tires, roll it in/out, and then air back up.
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Our 1995 model is 11' 11" tall. With air released from the suspension, we have several inches of clearance to drive through the 12' doorway in our shop. I'm not sure when the Monaco Dynasty began to grow taller, a thought that might be worth looking into.

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Diesel suspension

Our 2002 Knight lives outside summer and winter, plugged in to house electrical, winterized in mid. Oct, back in operation in mid May. check batteries a couple times through the winter. So far So good.
Newfoundland winters can be a bit unpredictable!


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Maybe less costly to lower the floor. I know sounds odd, but cut out concrete, excavate, pour new 12 " lower. Not complete floor, just track 12" wider than rear duals.
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Check this out, might be an option for you if they can reverse it.
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