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Old 03-15-2015, 07:05 AM   #1
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Radiator Leak 2002 Monaco Diplomat

Just found during inspection a small leak in the radiator (aluminum) was found. Cummins wants to pull radiator out and send to radiator repair to see if it can be fixed. If not, must come up with a plan B. In meantime, husband located a source for 2 tested radiators (one alum and one steel) that will fit our Monaco (they are new, but from one of he suppliers that has Monaco items). We are stumped in what to do. I keep hearing aluminum can't be repaired or re-cored. We don't want to put tons of money in labor between Cummins and a radiator shop to tell us we need a rebuild or they can't fix it.

Any input appreciated. CAN aluminum radiators be repaired. We don't know where the leak is at this point.

We do have an extended warranty and the radiator is covered, but insurance companies all play the this is how much we will give for labor and material game so we don't know how this will end up yet. That is why I am looking for more information about the radiator issue.
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Old 03-15-2015, 09:16 AM   #2
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We had the same issue with the 2003 Holiday Rambler that we used to have. We found that even if the stock radiator could be repaired, there was no warranty on the repair. So we opted to have a new copper radiator install. We did have to pay the difference between what a stock radiator would have cost and the copper one. I felt that the cost was worth it. The cost of the total repair, new radiator, repair the CAC, new fan/hub and the R&R was about $6500. The warranty that we had covered all but $1500 which we could live with. Beside we had a much better cooling system now.
Hope that all works out for you.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:13 AM   #3
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Problem with the aluminium so called one piece radiator is that it cannot be repaired. Leaks usually occur where the tubes meet the end tanks. Leak was probably caused by vibration. For a permanent fix you need to purchase a 3 piece radiator. The tubes and fins are made of copper. The end tanks are made of steel or copper. They are bolted together and can take all the vibration from a Diesel engine. We bought ours for about 1900 dollars from a company in Sweet Home Oregon. It was called Radiator Supply or something similar. Look on Internet .
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Old 03-15-2015, 12:58 PM   #4
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Call these guys at Brice Thomas Radiator and A/C Service in Gadsden, Alabama at. Phone# 256-546-4613. They have a great reputation. You do not want to reinstall the Al radiator as it will leak again if repaired. If the leak is tiny you might consider Zerex Super Sealer as a stopgap measure.
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Old 03-15-2015, 01:03 PM   #5
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I agree with DtBt. We had the radiator on our 2002 Ambassador leak and it could not be repaired. To save shipping I drove to Alabama to pick a new one up. Nice people to work with. The labor to do the job was the same $ as the radiator.

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Old 03-15-2015, 06:36 PM   #6
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We had a 2002 Hoilday Rambler with the same radiator and in 2009 we were in route to Boston via the interstate when we threw a rock from the road thru the radiator. We went to the Cummins dealer there for repairs. Make a long story short I found a radiator shop that would work on it. They pulled the radiator out the shop repaired it and we never had any problem up to when we traded it in late 2013.
I wouldn't be afraid of having it repaired. As extra information the aluminum radiator installed in the the 2002 HR was only made for one year and no spares we're available for that model. This all happened the year Monaco went under so we got no help from them.
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Mine took a dump and could not be fixed. Got one here Radiator Supply House - What can we build for you? installed by Quinn Cat Calif. Total cost $5400
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Old 03-25-2015, 10:08 AM   #8
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Radiator Repair (frustrated)

Well, got the call today. Our radiator cannot be repair and a new one must be built as the 2002 Monaco radiator is obsolete. Something also about the cooling component as part of it.

Back to dealing with the warranty company for replace (instead of repair)....and fussing over their number vs. the repair facilities number.

Must cancel planned trip to Florida, as it won't be done for 2 or 3 weeks.

I really thought this whole RV thing was going to be fun and exciting, instead I am find it stressful, frustrating and one big money pit.

Really down in the dumps right now, but can anyone give me any assurance that this will at some point start being fun?
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I am convinced people that buy diesel pusher motor homes with all of the neat extras better know a lot going in about electrical and mechanical systems in general cause things can and DO go wrong. You must be able to fix and maintain the systems your self or you are going to spend a lot of time and$$$ in repair shops.


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Well, got the call today. Our radiator cannot be repair and a new one must be built as the 2002 Monaco radiator is obsolete. Something also about the cooling component as part of it.

Back to dealing with the warranty company for replace (instead of repair)....and fussing over their number vs. the repair facilities number.

Must cancel planned trip to Florida, as it won't be done for 2 or 3 weeks.

I really thought this whole RV thing was going to be fun and exciting, instead I am find it stressful, frustrating and one big money pit.

Really down in the dumps right now, but can anyone give me any assurance that this will at some point start being fun?
Hang in there sunshine
I have went through almost all of my kids inheritance, seems like every time I turn around there goes few thousand dollars. (tires, frig, windows, now shocks then we have to put fuel in
My wife thinks it is a big money pit also but likes the ride going down the road. I keep telling her it will get better. I do all my service on it so that helps. In 2013 when we got it we made many trips to Junction City, the best place to work on CC because most of the tech are down there.
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:30 PM   #11
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Thanks 2 Stroker

Thank you 2 Stroker....the only sunshine I'm seeing is the chuckle I'm getting from your post, before the cloud blocked the sun. Ha Ha

We actually just had the discussion, have only had this rig 1 year (and we are quite handy)....at what time do we cut our losses.

Problem is, husband won't fly and he says you can't see the country from the air (lame excuse). We are real close to retirement. Only have 1 child that finishes college this year.

Our solution, what the heck....its time or us to enjoy ourselves. I'm just waiting for that to happen.
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I know it's to late for you, but I have had a small leak in my radiator for 7 years. I top it off before every trip, and have had no issues. I do all my own oil changes and filter changes. We have had a great time with our unit, so far. Never left us on the side of the road. I stopped worrying about every little noise and issues.
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Our solution, what the heck....its time or us to enjoy ourselves. I'm just waiting for that to happen.
Well, I could give you a long sad story and we too are waiting for the good to start!
Both my and my wifes parents died, then my wife put her retirement papers in on a Monday, Thursday her daughter died of a blood clot so we inherited two grandkids so she cancelled her retirement. Now the oldest has moved out but the youngest is 15 and still with us. Some three years ago she started vomiting blood and was in the ER, ICU and recovery 12 times in two years and 3 times for hernia surgery. She went on short term and now long term disability and started her SS. We decided we wanted a different MH and bought a really nice Country Coach, drove it to AZ and almost made it back when the engine blew up to the tune of $29,000. Now it's sitting at the local Cummins dealer waiting for repairs. Cummins is going to pick up about $10,000 of the cost though. Should be done next week, had to close out an IRA to pay for it. There's more, smaller stuff but you get the idea!
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I am so sorry

I am so sorry to hear of all of your difficulties. Life sometimes just keeps throwing more at us. Which is why we were a little down. Won't go into the stresses on our end as your burden has been a large one to bare for sure. It's partly why we were so looking forward to doing this with an RV. It will work out. We prayed about it and for some reason we are not to go on this trip. The radiator will be fixed...they will rebuild. We will schedule the PA to FL trip for next Christmas. Our responsibilities lie here right now. And, we had to remind ourselves again....we are not the ones in control.

Will pray for you too that you find comfort to move forward with all the difficulties you are facing.

Thank you for the reminder on what is really important.
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