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04-22-2020, 05:54 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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RV won't move - what might be the cause?
Hello Everyone
This is embarrassing. I was working on the RV, finished replacing exhaust manifold gaskets. After all done, I was going to take it out for a test drive. Engine starts fine, air builds up fine to 100+psi. No warnings or error lights on dash. Everything looks and sounds normal. I stepped on the brakes and release the emergency/parking brakes. I hear the air release. Everything is normal at this point. Then I push the D button on transmission controls, it lunges a bit, but does not move. I step on gas, wants to go but feels like something is holding the beast. Tried it several times, checked all the fuses, still the same.
Any thoughts on how to troubleshoot this issue?
Thank you
Ali
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2008 Monaco Camelot 36PDQ
2000 Monaco Windsor 40PBS sold
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04-22-2020, 06:01 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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When was the last time it moved?
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04-22-2020, 06:12 PM
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Foretravel Owners Club
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Sounds like You have a brake shoe(s) stuck to the brake drums(s) .. This can also happen with disc brakes..
Try reverse a bit .. mebbe they will pop loose..
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04-22-2020, 06:14 PM
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If it hasn't move in a while,the breaks could be stuck.
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04-22-2020, 06:15 PM
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Sounds like a brake has locked up or has rusted. Try shifting from D to R a few times. See if that frees it up.
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04-22-2020, 06:15 PM
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I agree with Arch. Air drum brakes have been know to lock/freeze to the drums, especially if not used in a while. I used to see this with the MCI 102C3 buses that I drove, and when it would happen, sometime putting the transmission in reverse and giving it a little go can break the lock/freeze. Make sure you have some room behind you if you try this, it may not go far, but if it's just a stuck brake, it may jump a little.
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04-22-2020, 06:37 PM
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Thanks you so much for your responses. I put a camera under the coach, facing the rear drums and shoes, although the piston moves when I released park brakes, there seem to be a frozen drum brake issue on both rear tires. I did not move the RV for 3 weeks, it is strange drums got frozen.
I am going to grab a 4 lb hammer, chuch all the tires, release the park brake and hit the drums to see if I can unbind them. I will you know in a few hours.
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2008 Monaco Camelot 36PDQ
2000 Monaco Windsor 40PBS sold
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04-22-2020, 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali
Thanks you so much for your responses. I put a camera under the coach, facing the rear drums and shoes, although the piston moves when I released park brakes, there seem to be a frozen drum brake issue on both rear tires. I did not move the RV for 3 weeks, it is strange drums got frozen.
I am going to grab a 4 lb hammer, chuch all the tires, release the park brake and hit the drums to see if I can unbind them. I will you know in a few hours.
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Monaco's are notorious for the brakes freezing up. Put it in reverse and hit the throttle on and off like rocking it. In a few tries it will break free.
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04-22-2020, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali
Thanks you so much for your responses. I put a camera under the coach, facing the rear drums and shoes, although the piston moves when I released park brakes, there seem to be a frozen drum brake issue on both rear tires. I did not move the RV for 3 weeks, it is strange drums got frozen.
I am going to grab a 4 lb hammer, chuch all the tires, release the park brake and hit the drums to see if I can unbind them. I will you know in a few hours.
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CAUTION !!!
SECURELY BLOCK (chock) ALL THE WHEEL POSITIONS BOTH FRONT AND REAR OF THE TIRES.... BEFORE RELEASING THE BRAKES !!!!!!!!!!!
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04-22-2020, 06:55 PM
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Not sure I have heard of this happening in such a short period of time.
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04-22-2020, 07:24 PM
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That has happened to me a couple of times. After I wash the coach, if I wash out the wheel wells, water seems to get in there and the brakes seem to stick closed. Now what I do if I am washing out the wheel wells, I'll leave the brakes Off while it's in storage just for a couple of days. I chock the tires and that seems to have solved that problem.
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04-22-2020, 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Outbound
Not sure I have heard of this happening in such a short period of time.
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I have had it happen over a weekend.. Brake drums were wet when park brakes set, combination of brake residue and contaminates from the roads combined with the moisture will set up between the shoes/calipers and drums/rotors.
Also have had wet shoes & drums during winter, set the brakes then when they cool off below freezing, freezes the shoes to the drums.. same result.
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being pushed by an '06 Scion xB
SKP's of Box Elder, South Dakota
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04-22-2020, 09:15 PM
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Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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I just had this happen to my front D.S disc brake ! So, it wasn't even engaged while the coach sat!
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2008 43' Holiday Rambler Scepter PDQ
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04-22-2020, 09:27 PM
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Thank you all, really appreciate your responses, and you were all spot on. Both rear drum brakes were frozen solid.
As Saddlesore suggested, first I securely chocked all 6 wheel positions back and front. I started the engine, released parking brakes, put to neutral and turn the engine off. Of course the warning buzzer was on warning me about the parking brake position. Then raised the rear all the way up using air leveling. After double checking everything I crawled under with a 4-lb hammer and a big steel hook bar. Hammer worked fine on one side, but the other drum was stubborn, which I used the hook bar to do the job. You can hear brakes coming loose with a metal ping sound. After that I was able to move the RV without issues
We owned this RV for several years, and it sat way longer that 3 weeks before, and never experienced this before. It was always release the brakes and go. I guess you learn something new every day with these 20+ year old beauties :-) Lesson learned, I will keep the hammer and steel bar in the motorhome from now on.
Thanks again for all your responses and quickly pointing me in the right direction. I was losing hope, you guys saved the day
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