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Old 05-01-2021, 09:01 PM   #1
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Salesman switch solenoid location

Does anyone know where this solenoid could be located in my 2004 Camelot? I have a large solenoid in my battery bay that the house batteries hot lead connects to and the chassis batteries hot lead connects to. There are also two small wires on terminals one being purple. Click image for larger version

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Good evening DaveBunker; I see no one has replied yet so I will try and hope I get it right. The picture you posted is a Trombetta solenoid and I think it is used on a number of coaches to connect the chassis and the house batteries together for charging. I am not sure if it also serves the function as at Battery Boost solenoid. I think the one you are asking about in your battery compartment is the Battery Boost Solenoid activated by the battery boost switch on the dash.

In your heading you have Salesmen Switch Solenoid Location. I am not 100% sure, but I think on a newer Camelot, mine being an 01 Windsor, that solenoid is located in the electrical bay up on the drivers side of the coach. You need to remove the 3 nylon wing nuts and it should be located behind that panel. Did this info help? Hope so and have a great evening!
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Don't call it a 'salesman switch' while twinboat is still awake !

Mine is in my rear run bay.
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Old 05-01-2021, 09:32 PM   #4
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Don't call it a 'salesman switch' while twinboat is still awake !



Mine is in my rear run bay.


Ok, storage switch, sorry. LOL
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Technically, it's a battery disconnect switch and solenoid .
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Good evening DaveBunker; I see no one has replied yet so I will try and hope I get it right. The picture you posted is a Trombetta solenoid and I think it is used on a number of coaches to connect the chassis and the house batteries together for charging. I am not sure if it also serves the function as at Battery Boost solenoid. I think the one you are asking about in your battery compartment is the Battery Boost Solenoid activated by the battery boost switch on the dash.



In your heading you have Salesmen Switch Solenoid Location. I am not 100% sure, but I think on a newer Camelot, mine being an 01 Windsor, that solenoid is located in the electrical bay up on the drivers side of the coach. You need to remove the 3 nylon wing nuts and it should be located behind that panel. Did this info help? Hope so and have a great evening!


Yes it did burner...however to locate it one needs to switch it on and off while ones listens for the solenoid to click. Problem is I have no DC power at all. Nothing coming into the coach. What’s weird is I couldn’t even start my fridge on AC hooked to my 50 amp shore power here at home. My generator wouldn’t even start.
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In my 04 Camelot it is up front drivers side box in front of left wheel.... Mine is inoperative so I ran a jumper wire across the in and out posts.
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Yes it did burner...however to locate it one needs to switch it on and off while ones listens for the solenoid to click. Problem is I have no DC power at all. Nothing coming into the coach. What’s weird is I couldn’t even start my fridge on AC hooked to my 50 amp shore power here at home. My generator wouldn’t even start.
Sounds like your large house battery disconnect switch may have failed.

Wouldn't be the first.
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Hi DaveBunker; Monaco did different things with different coaches and years. My previous 2000 Windsor needed the house battery connect solenoid to be activated to supply the 12V power to run the refer. My current 2001 Windsor does not. Also needed that solenoid activated to start the gen. where as my 01 Windsor you do not. Crazy from one year to the next. Sounds like your refer and the gen. are powered from the house batteries and need that solenoid activated to make those items work. I see TRH299 also gave you the location of that solenoid. If I remember from his pictures the solenoid is located in the lower left of that box. Almost looks like the old Ford starter relay.
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Sounds like your large house battery disconnect switch may have failed.



Wouldn't be the first.


Very possible and I will check it out tomorrow. If it didn’t I might upgrade it anyway.
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Don't call it a 'salesman switch' while twinboat is still awake !

Mine is in my rear run bay.
Why does that bother twinboat calling it a salesman switch? My salesman switch is located in the front run bay.
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Here is an example of one house battery disconnect solenoid that Monaco used, the KIB LR9806C-BIP. That Web page also has a picture of the solenoid's location on a typical Front Distribution Panel. If the LR9806C-BIP doesn't match your coach's solenoid, the same supplier has others listed here.
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This may be what your panel looks like.

Below the driver, outside compartment.

The relay is at the bottom left.

It is a latching relay. See the pdf for description of operation. The schematic on the pdf is for reference only.

The relay can be removed and bypassed or bypassed in place simply with a jumper or stacking all the wires on one of the large posts, or just bolting them together and insulating them.

Removing the relay for me was for the safety of the fur babies. If they bumped the switch near the door the air conditioners would not function.

The solenoid in the battery compartment is part of the "BIRD" battery combining system. It can get very hot to the touch if running on shoreline or generator.

That solenoid should be on everyone's maintenance list to replace every few years in my humble opinion. That darn thing works hard and can become unreliable leading to all kinds of crazy complaints.
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Here is an example of one house battery disconnect solenoid that Monaco used, the KIB LR9806C-BIP. That Web page also has a picture of the solenoid's location on a typical Front Distribution Panel. If the LR9806C-BIP doesn't match your coach's solenoid, the same supplier has others listed here.

I got one on Amazon last fall, "KIB LR9806 Latching Relay".
It was identical to my old relay but on the old one, one side did not have the 5 amp fuse and if I recall, the wire coming out did not lead anywhere and no instructions in the box. So I left that off on the new one also and it works. I wonder what the - side is for, a second switch?
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