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Old 12-29-2012, 06:53 PM   #43
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Seems you I may have about the same engine as you. Mine is 2000 ISB 275. What gauges are you able to monitor. I have not been able to have anyone tell me what is available from my engine system. I really want to monitor temps, boost and fuel pressure.

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Hi Jerry,

Agree with Walt. Download the free software and then select your engine type. The gages you can generally monitor will be there under parameters. But I cannot monitor all parameters listed since my engine was an early model. My engine was the first Cummins electronic version so I am limited but I can monitor eng temp, tranny temp, intake manifold temp, boost pressure, oil pressure, RPM and a host of other things that the software computes for you such as Torque, HP, mpg etc. You can prbably monitor gear selected vs gear achieved on your disply. I cannot but tranny display shows it to me. I cannot measure fuel pressure on mine so I added a dash mount guage to measure Lift pressure. Of course you can monitor your diagnostic codes. You can monitor diagnostic codes in real time as they occur if you choose so if you have injection pump problems you will know as the malfunction occurrs.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:26 PM   #44
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Thanks to both responders, sounds like it would be a good investment.
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They don't, but in a coach where all systems run thru the system, it controls everything. Including the charging system. Any changes to equipment cause updates to the silverleaf system. This means back to them for updates,etc. The engine components seem fine, it's the coach control systems that are problematic.
Ok. I went to the silverleaf site and loooked at their "Total Systems" which control the functions you listed. I am not familiar with this system. So I assume you sent the inverter to Silverleaf due control electronics on the inverter since they don't actually make the inverters.

Please explain what system you have and on what coach. A little info goes a long way in a forum. Would like to learn about this so please provide more info on your system and why you sent the inverter to Silverleaf instead of the inverter manufacturer. It seems you could just change the control functions on the inverter. A little help please.
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Okay. Lets see if we can clear this up. The coach in question is an Alpine Apex. The inverter failed. No inverter was sent to Silverleaf. The silverleaf comes into play because the TM102 and VMS440 and TV module require updates to the system to talk to the new inverter. These have to be sent to Silverleaf for updates. Second time to them for that as when tank sensors failed, were replaced with see level gauges, it had to be updated then as well.
Silverleaf promised a same day turnaround on the updates. Long story short, two and a half weeks later and the silverfeaf still does not function with the inverter they recommended . This system controls EVERYTHING in this coach, level, room slides, water pump, autofill, charging system, etc.
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Okay. Lets see if we can clear this up. The coach in question is an Alpine Apex. The inverter failed. No inverter was sent to Silverleaf. The silverleaf comes into play because the TM102 and VMS440 and TV module require updates to the system to talk to the new inverter. These have to be sent to Silverleaf for updates. Second time to them for that as when tank sensors failed, were replaced with see level gauges, it had to be updated then as well.
Silverleaf promised a same day turnaround on the updates. Long story short, two and a half weeks later and the silverfeaf still does not function with the inverter they recommended . This system controls EVERYTHING in this coach, level, room slides, water pump, autofill, charging system, etc.
SilverLeaf Electronics offers a Total Coach System or an Aladdin replacement which I think you are referring to in your Alpine coach.

Most people who use the add-on SilverLeaf system called VMSpc which is what I have are not familiar with what you are talking about.

I hope this clears up any confusion.

Here are some photos of my installation.

I love the VMSpc system and would not leave home without it.

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Okay. Lets see if we can clear this up. The coach in question is an Alpine Apex. The inverter failed. No inverter was sent to Silverleaf. The silverleaf comes into play because the TM102 and VMS440 and TV module require updates to the system to talk to the new inverter. These have to be sent to Silverleaf for updates. Second time to them for that as when tank sensors failed, were replaced with see level gauges, it had to be updated then as well.
Silverleaf promised a same day turnaround on the updates. Long story short, two and a half weeks later and the silverfeaf still does not function with the inverter they recommended . This system controls EVERYTHING in this coach, level, room slides, water pump, autofill, charging system, etc.
Thanks, that clears it up. Most of the Silverleaf stuff that I am familiar with does not control anything. My VMSpc only reads and cannot even clear codes. However it is great system. I like manual operation of systems rather than computer controlled. Auto operation and fancy digital control panels is just something else to go wrong to put your rig in a shop. For an inverter an on/off switch is ok with me.

Wish I could comment more on your system but it is just beyond my scope. Good luck with it.
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...Auto operation and fancy digital control panels is just something else to go wrong to put your rig in a shop. For an inverter an on/off switch is ok with me.................
The big problem with these system are that they are custom and have a small market. Often the companies go out of business leaving the customer with no support. If they don't go out of business the systems become obsolete fast and they tend to stop supporting them. If you notice, that can happen even with large companies with a vast market. Think of Microsoft and Windows XP. We had a problem with our TriMark keyless entry module and found out that TriMark no longer supported it. I had to change it out to the later model. At least I had that option and have skills doing that type of work.

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Bob,

Know what you mean. I do most of the work on my MH and that is the only way I can afford one. Most of my old systems are repairable or at least upgradeable. I think the main thing wrong with the design of fancy systems is that they take away manual operation. So if it breaks your stuck for repairs. If I ever installed an "total coach system" I would always leave manual methods available to keep my coach operable. But that is just me.
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