I was measuring for the guardian plates and you have to jack the slide up a little bit that's when I saw mine were all scratched and I was going to replace them but they are riveted and is no way to get to the rivets to drill or put the rivets back in. I already bought the block but I think you are right the slide has to come out to put them in
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2006 Endeavor 40 PDQ 400 ISL
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