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Old 03-18-2009, 08:03 AM   #1
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Sliders in or out before leveling.

I am a new owner of an 04 Diplomat with four sliders. I read the owners manual and it said to extend the sliders before leveling, I have been leveling first and then putting out the sliders. What are you guys doing related to leveling before or after extending the sliders.

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Old 03-18-2009, 08:17 AM   #2
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Welcome to our forum. You will see tons of discussion on this subject. The CORRECT way is, slides out, dump the air bags then level. When ready to leave, just the opposite, air up, retract jacks and then slides in. Other manufactures do it differently, but this is the way Monaco recommends.

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Old 03-18-2009, 08:19 AM   #3
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The general rule is extend slides, dump air, put jacks down. When getting ready to leave the order is reversed but I prefer to bring the air up before I retract the jacks either way the jacks should be up and the coach at ride height before you bring in the slides. If you have to park in a very uneven site some people will level first so the slide is not going uphill or downhill while extending or retracting.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:36 AM   #4
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Thanks for the information, as a new owner I am certain other questions will come up. This is a great place to meet other owners.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:53 AM   #5
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Some will use the automatic levelling and others will only level manually. My automatic system work well whereas others seems "to have a mind of their own".

The levelling is working like a tripod - 1 in front and 2 at the back. Thereby you will always have full contact on all legs, as opposed to a 4 leg system.

Some people who do their levelling manually will tell you to raise the single front leg first, as this will eliminate the twisting of the front end, and therefore minimize the risk of a broken windscreen. I can't tell you for sure if this is 100% true, but it certainly makes sense to me. I would do this if levelling manually.

As for the forum - you are right. This is a fantastic place to "meet" other owners and there are no better sourse for technical information. You will enjoy this I am sure.
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:37 AM   #6
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When should I extend and retract my slideout rooms, before or after leveling?
A: This is a highly debated and confusing subject, as conflicting information is frequently exchanged. Monaco Coach Corporation’s position on this issue has not changed, contrary to what you may have heard or read. We’ll sum it up in an easy-to-remember phrase: “First out, last in.” What this means is, once you have selected your campsite, extend the rooms out before leveling, while your coach suspension is still at ride height. Then, prior to departing, disengage the leveling system, air up the coach suspension to travel height, and retract the rooms as the final step. An easy way to remember it is to think of an overcrowded, stuffy elevator. Most likely, you would want to be the “first out” when the doors open. In order to do that, you would have to be the “last in” just before they closed. First out, last in.
Q: What if my campsite is significantly sloped or twisted? Shouldn’t I level the coach before extending the slideouts?
A: The answer is: perhaps. “First out, last in” is a broad generalization that applies to the wide variety of makes, models and floorplans that Monaco Coach Corporation manufactures. When the rooms are operated with the coach suspension at what we call ride- or travel height, the amount of torsional flex on the chassis, sidewall and slideout rooms is minimized, allowing for an optimized clearance around all slideout room sides and sidewall openings. As with any rule, there may be an exception and certainly it would be prudent to employ a measure of reasonable judgment to evaluate certain situations.
Q: My coach uses an air leveling system, what should I do differently?
A: In general, nothing. The same “First out, last in” principles apply whether your coach is equipped with hydraulic or air leveling.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:15 PM   #7
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I always dump air first then, level and last thing is to let out the slides. I haven't experienced any negative affects and it makes me feel better that the slides are moving on a level platform.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:54 PM   #8
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Hansville & Duramax.......Monaco has you put the slides out first for a reason....When your coaches were built, the slides were installed and fitted while the coach was aired up in the ride position.

A lot of people have difficulty trying to visual their coach being level when it's sitting on an angle in a campsite and want to level it first and then put out the slides. As you drive your coach down the road, up a hill or across the apron of a driveway, your chassis is fairly rigid and holding everything even/level. Even when you drive into an irregular campsite and the motorhome is not level, the structure and rigidity of the chassis is trying to hold the coach true. This is when the slides should come out while they are square in their openings.

Once you drop the air out and then start twisting the frame to make the coach level, you are tweaking the openings.

One other point that didn't get mentioned is that the front jack should ALWAYS be put down first and make contact with the ground. The rears are then lowered to level the coach and make the adjustments. The front jack is the pivot point and reduces stress as the two rear jacks move around. The front jack should ALWAYS have some pressure on it and be the first down and the last up.

Finally, when I'm ready to depart a campsite, I start the engine and allow the coach to begin to air up. As soon as I feel the coach start to lift, I press the retract all jack button and allow the jacks to come up. This is easier on the jacks and I don't get that initial violent reaction when the jacks retract.
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Up N Flames is correct. Thank you

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Old 03-20-2009, 08:33 PM   #10
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Here are some thoughts that I've posted on this subject. They may be helpful to those with hydraulic jacks.

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