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Old 12-03-2021, 12:03 PM   #1
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Small Electrical issue

Hello everyone,
I am having a minor issue and am slightly embarrassed to post this question, but I have send some time on it and got nowhere, so here goes...
I am plugged in to 20 am shore power, and all the 120V systems on the rig work fine, fridge, microwave, AC units etc.
But the outlets are not working, and several of them say GCFI protected, but I cannot find an outlet anywhere that has the test/reset button on it.
I checked the breakers on my 120V distrbution panel and none were tripped, but none was labeled outlets either.
Can you guys give me some ideas here?
Thanks as always !
Kevin
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:16 PM   #2
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Do you have an Inverter?
If YES. check the CBs on the Inverter

GFCI Outlets........bathroom, kitchen, wet bay are typical locations due to 'wet' environment

Do you have another AC Panel in bedroom?
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:46 PM   #3
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On a 20 amp circuit, you likely don't have enough current available to power all those circuits.
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Old 12-03-2021, 01:30 PM   #4
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You have a GFI in your RV that you haven't found, and your dead
outlets are slaved to it. Or there is a second power panel that has
a GFI breaker in it and it is tripped.

Look everywhere - including where your generator is, and where
your transfer switch is... there maybe a breaker box there. Look
for a GFI outlet in your under-sink areas, in your bathroom cabinets,
in your wet bay, in your basement storage compartments...

One acquaintance had to call the customer disservice people at the
RV manufacturer to get a wiring diagram - it showed the GFI and
noted which storage compartment it was in... it was in the ceiling
of that compartment! Unless you used a mirror or bent over and
looked up you would never have known it was there.

I absolutely HATE downstream (slave) outlets from a GFI.

A friend has a older house that was built in the days when GFIs were
new and expensive (early-to-mid 1980s). There was a GFI to the left
side of the kitchen sink, and the outlet on the right side was slaved to
it (i.e wired downstream on the "load" side of the GFI). The downstairs
bathroom shared a wall with the kitchen, and the bathroom outlets were
wired downstream from the kitchen GFI outlet as well. So when darling
wife used her hair dryer in the bathroom she'd pop the GFI and she had
to drip their way into the kitchen to reset it.

I helped him move the slave kitchen outlet wiring from the "load" side to
the "line" side of the GFI outlet, and we replaced every downstream outlet
with a new GFI outlet, with the power going into the "line" side of each
one, and nothing connected to the "load" side. So now when any one of
them trips you just reset it and the trip doesn't take any other outlets
with it.

As cheap as GFIs are these days it makes sense to juggle the wiring to
make each downstream outlets its own GFI (if they even need to be
GFI... local code says anything within 6 feet of water).

And DON'T get your GFIs from Harbor Freight - they sell nameless chinese
units. Personally, I only use a name brand like Leviton (which removes the
Home Depot no-name "contractor packs" from the available options).

Note that Home Depot does sell Leviton (and similar quality names) in bulk,
but CED (Consolidated Electrical Distributors) is a chain of electrical supply
houses that has a couple of stores in my area. they may be local to you.
Their prices on Leviton GFIs is competitive with Home Depot's contractor
packs.

And GFIs aren't forever. It may take a decade or more but they can
eventually fail. The most common symptom that I've seen is that they
get overly sensitive and end up where you can't reset them.

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Old 12-03-2021, 04:41 PM   #5
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Outlets

Sometimes before you drive yourself crazy .
Unplug from shore power start Genset and see if outlets work ..
Donít want to get into a long story but at 50 amps 240 you have two hot leads coming in , if your only feeding one leg , called l 1 itís you will only have power on one side of panel .

Genset will supply another source .to check it all out .
Always start simple..
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Did you find the hiding GFCI yet ?
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Do you have an Inverter?
If YES. check the CBs on the Inverter

GFCI Outlets........bathroom, kitchen, wet bay are typical locations due to 'wet' environment

Do you have another AC Panel in bedroom?
I would go to the inverter also. On an older coach like that it likely only powers outlets. Most are pass through so if an overload trips the inverter, you have no power to those circuits.
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Old 12-03-2021, 09:16 PM   #8
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I had a 2001 Diplomat. sold now but the gfi was in the bathroom by the basin. I also had an issue like yours once and it was the circuit breaker on the inverter. It may not look thrown but still turn off then on. Good luck.
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Old 12-04-2021, 09:11 AM   #9
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Small electrical issue

I was not available to look into issue yesterday
thanks for all the good tips
I will look further today and try the invertor and generator ideas
I will report back
thanks
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Old 12-05-2021, 03:19 PM   #10
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Issue resolved

so I just did all of the things you guys suggested and it fixed itself...not sure which one solved it....the Invertor CBs were not tripped but reset anyway...never did find a GFCI outlet ANYWHERE!! Lol
Thanks all!!!
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