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07-03-2020, 06:32 AM
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Ok Here is a new idea for you. I have a Safari that is very similar to your rig. Check your generator. It will have two circuit breakers and they both need to be on. It will trip when you are on 30amp shore power and make half of your circuits not work. Please don't ask me to explain the why or how because I have not researched for those questions. I only know from experience that they will trip even when I am hooked up to 30 amp shore power, and overload that side of the power. It took me a while to find this as the reason I had no power for coffee
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07-03-2020, 07:56 AM
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I am no electrician, but if you have power coming out of the breaker, I would ( if you already haven’t) go to the first plug in on the circuit and pull it out of the wall to see if there is power coming from the breaker to it. This would at least narrow the search down to between there and the breaker box. Following this to see what you find. Hoping it is soon. Good luck.
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07-03-2020, 10:10 AM
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#73
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by irishguy
...Tomorrow I'm closing the galley slide to access another j-box that may be part of the dead circuit.
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I had a similar problem with my HR Vacationer. Turned out to be a fried, twist on, wire nut in the bedroom slide junction box (under the bed  ).
I won't get into the whole "wire nuts in a motor vehicle are perfectly safe" discussion again, but after fixing the problem I added a p-clamp on the flexible cable entering the J-box to eliminate movement at the box.
I'll bet you're on the right track looking at that galley slide J-box.
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07-03-2020, 10:25 AM
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#74
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Monaco electrical problem
A friend of mine owns a 2008 Monaco, and was experiencing the very something. We could only find one GFI circuit breaker in his unit. the problem that we found was a lose ground in the electrical bay.
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07-03-2020, 10:35 AM
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#75
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Junior Member
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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Location: Whitefish MT
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Had same Problem on my 2002 HR Scepter, found a gfi outlet in outside compartment on passenger side tripped reset it and all plugs are good again
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07-03-2020, 01:09 PM
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Thank you all for supplying more things for me to check out.
I know for sure there are no GFI outlets on this mh. The GFI's are on the breakers in the 120v panel and are not tripped.
I'll check the generator breakers, seems remote but you never know.
The power supply to a j-box I found is dead so the issue is up stream of that. All the dead outlets have continuity between them and the j-box.
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07-03-2020, 03:55 PM
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Location: Kansas City, MO
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Get a volt test meter to find the current to each outlet. There is probably a GFCI outlet somewhere that went South. I also use mine to test the AC availability of shore power at a campsite BEFORE unhooking the TOAD, parking and setting up. What's more frustrating than backing (or pulling) into a site just to find out there's no power.
I don't work for LOWES, but.... https://www.lowes.com/pd/UEI-Digital...ter/1002435072 works fine for me.
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07-04-2020, 04:33 AM
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#78
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Irishguy,
In looking at the 2003 electrical drawing another poster supplied, the oulet for your engine block heater is a GFCI.....depicted very top of the drawing
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07-04-2020, 04:41 AM
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I circled it here for you.
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07-04-2020, 06:43 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Blairsville, GA & WPB, FL
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Yes the block heater is a GFI but it doesn’t feed another outlet plus you can turn it on/off manually.
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07-04-2020, 07:48 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
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Sound like a GFCI that is defected. They do go bad. Did you check to see if you have power at the GFCI. And if you two GFCI check both.
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07-04-2020, 08:30 AM
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Hello all,
Update: I opened up the j-box that is only accessible with the slide in. The black wire power feed from the 120v breaker panel "front kitchen" breaker to this j-box is dead. As well there is no continuity from the j-box to the breaker panel outlet wire.
That j-box feeds another nearby j-box that splits out the feed to all the dead outlets.
I decided to leave the "front kitchen" breaker off and soon discovered there was no power to my front tv "lock out" outlet and another outlet for my sat dish receiver. I flipped on the "front kitchen" breaker and my tv and sat dish turned on.
Anyone know if there is a third j-box in the "front kitchen" circuit? If so, any idea where it could be?
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07-04-2020, 08:42 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by irishguy
I decided to leave the "front kitchen" breaker off and soon discovered there was no power to my front tv "lock out" outlet and another outlet for my sat dish receiver. I flipped on the "front kitchen" breaker and my tv and sat dish turned on.
Anyone know if there is a third j-box in the "front kitchen" circuit? If so, any idea where it could be?
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There might not be one. One of those two receptacles may be the last in the chain before things go dead. That’s where I’d start at this point, by opening them up and checking connections. You’ve narrowed it down to a very small run, and though cables and conductors can suffer damage, it’s far more common for connections to lose integrity.
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07-04-2020, 10:32 AM
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#84
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: CA
Posts: 4,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KanzKran
There might not be one. One of those two receptacles may be the last in the chain before things go dead. That’s where I’d start at this point, by opening them up and checking connections. You’ve narrowed it down to a very small run, and though cables and conductors can suffer damage, it’s far more common for connections to lose integrity.
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I looked at the Monaco archive site and didn't see the 2003 Windsors listed, so not familiar with your PST floor plan.
But I have a junction box behind some drawers under the bedroom tv. I have to remove the drawers to access it.
Another idea, basement ceiling?
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