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irishguy · 06-27-2020, 01:05 PM

Hello All,

This morning my wife turned on her coffee maker. It came on but shortly there after she noticed it wasn't on. The only other major electrical draw at the time was the aquahot electical side. We are on 30 amp shore power.
I discovered a bunch of electrical outlets running along the kitchen side now have no power. It's like something tripped.
I checked all breakers/GFI's in the breaker box panels in the bedroom. I flipped and reset them but no change. Including the L1 and L2 inverter breakers.
There is one little breaker reset button on the front of xantrex inverter but it's not tripped.
Are there any other breakers on the inverter that are not easily seen and accessed?
The microwave has power and so do both a/c units and the fridge.
I disconnected shore power and turned on the inverter. No change to those outlets.
What or where else can I check?

irishguy
2003 Monaco Windsor

tomd85208 · 06-27-2020, 01:13 PM

I don't know if this will help but one time I had a similar problem and someone showed me a flashing light on the "Right" side of my inverter. There is a very small "Reset" button on that right side by the input wires, and when you push it in for a second or two a light will start flashing and hopefully you're back in business. Try that... I hope it works for you!

windsorbill · 06-27-2020, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by irishguy

Hello All,

This morning my wife turned on her coffee maker. It came on but shortly there after she noticed it wasn't on. The only other major electrical draw at the time was the aquahot electical side. We are on 30 amp shore power.
I discovered a bunch of electrical outlets running along the kitchen side now have no power. It's like something tripped.
I checked all breakers/GFI's in the breaker box panels in the bedroom. I flipped and reset them but no change. Including the L1 and L2 inverter breakers.
There is one little breaker reset button on the front of xantrex inverter but it's not tripped.
Are there any other breakers on the inverter that are not easily seen and accessed?
The microwave has power and so do both a/c units and the fridge.
I disconnected shore power and turned on the inverter. No change to those outlets.
What or where else can I check?

irishguy
2003 Monaco Windsor

My breakers on the inverter are very hard to see. If you don't know they are there, they are easily missed.

tommar · 06-27-2020, 01:42 PM

Check your GFIs again. You may have one in say your bathroom that's part of your 120v outletin the bathroom and it tripped. Or a GFI in another outlet somewhere. In my S&B house, I lost power in some of my outlets... finally had to call an electrician. He quickly found a tripped GFI in the powder room... on the other side of the house! Which caused the kitchen outlets to be dead. He pressed the reset button and then held his hand out for $125! Sheesh!

coachmanjay · 06-27-2020, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tommar

Check your GFIs again. You may have one in say your bathroom that's part of your 120v outletin the bathroom and it tripped. Or a GFI in another outlet somewhere. In my S&B house, I lost power in some of my outlets... finally had to call an electrician. He quickly found a tripped GFI in the powder room... on the other side of the house! Which caused the kitchen outlets to be dead. He pressed the reset button and then held his hand out for $125! Sheesh!

Often it is the bathroom GFI, unless there is one in the Kitchen

Outbound · 06-27-2020, 02:32 PM

May also have one in your outside cargo storage.

irishguy · 06-27-2020, 03:32 PM

Our windsor doesn't actually have any GFI outlets. Just some breakers in the breaker box with GFI on them.
I've gone through all the outlets on the inside and out but it's just the outlets on the kitchen side of the mh that have no power.

I can't find any other breakers on the inverter other than the one small one that states its part of the charging system.

I've shut down and started up the 120v and 12v to see if that would reset something but no change.

I opened up the transfer switch box. The wiring diagram says there's an led light to indicating normal but I don't see any light on. Would a faulty transfer switch cause my problem?

Could part of the inverter be fried?

Im now on genny power but no change.

KanzKran · 06-27-2020, 03:43 PM

Sounds like it’s time to open a receptacle, particularly the dead one closest to the panel.

irishguy · 06-27-2020, 03:58 PM

Tom,

Am I looking for a loose or fried wire?

Ivylog · 06-27-2020, 07:22 PM

There are 3 pin breakers on the inverter/charger... one for the 110 in and 2 for the 110 out. Sounds like one of the 2 is tripped. You should be able to feel them on the side ...push to reset.

Solo_RV_Guy · 06-27-2020, 07:47 PM

If you still have both air conditioners, the AquaHot heating element, and the microwave oven working... it would seem to point to a failure of the circuit breaker or it's GFCI component, or you've got a wiring failure. Not sure if Monaco used the insulation displacement terminated-outlets but I'm betting on it. Tom (KanzKran) suggests the first outlet fed by the circuit breaker and I concur. If you have a volt or multi-meter, or one of the 3 light testers... see if you have power at that one. No? Turn off the main breaker, and remove the outlet. You're looking for melted or deformed plastic, scorch marks / signs of arcing, loose terminations, odour of burning or high temps... if it all looks good and the wires are tight, examine other outlets - the first one might be on a different circuit (been there - trouble shooting stuff that worked).

irishguy · 06-27-2020, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivylog

There are 3 pin breakers on the inverter/charger... one for the 110 in and 2 for the 110 out. Sounds like one of the 2 is tripped. You should be able to feel them on the side ...push to reset.

Ivy, I've got a 2000 watt Trace inverter. I've checked that thing over from top to bottom...all I can see is one little push button breaker and it's not tripped.

Do you have a Trace as well?

irishguy · 06-27-2020, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Solo_RV_Guy

If you still have both air conditioners, the AquaHot heating element, and the microwave oven working... it would seem to point to a failure of the circuit breaker or it's GFCI component, or you've got a wiring failure. Not sure if Monaco used the insulation displacement terminated-outlets but I'm betting on it. Tom (KanzKran) suggests the first outlet fed by the circuit breaker and I concur. If you have a volt or multi-meter, or one of the 3 light testers... see if you have power at that one. No? Turn off the main breaker, and remove the outlet. You're looking for melted or deformed plastic, scorch marks / signs of arcing, loose terminations, odour of burning or high temps... if it all looks good and the wires are tight, examine other outlets - the first one might be on a different circuit (been there - trouble shooting stuff that worked).

I've checked the outlets and they are solid as a rock and no indication of damage. Working on wiring at the breaker panels. I have a helpful poster in Texas helping me out through email...hopefully we can figure this out.

Winemaker2 · 06-28-2020, 06:01 AM

I would unplug everything from all outlets served by the breaker that supplies that outlet and try to reset the breaker GFCI. There may be an issue with one appliance, cord etc that will trip that GFCI.
If not time to start tracing to see where you have / dont have power. Should be fairly easy to determine if any output from inverter or not.
Does it work on shore power and gen? Or dead on all?