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12-21-2017, 05:31 PM
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Tag axle alarm tone
Trying to figure out what happened, every time I raised my tag axle in the past I would get a intermittent beeper tone, now tag goes up but no tone, anyone ever have this happen.
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12-21-2017, 05:36 PM
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It's not chiming while your moving, or stopped? Think mine only sounds while I'm moving.
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12-21-2017, 05:39 PM
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It's not uncommon for these tone/chimes/buzzers to fail after 10+ years.
I have a turn signal chime that only works intermittently on left turns (works all the time on right turns).
On my Beaver the "Tag tone alarm" is located directly under the dash "access panel" which is located in the padded dash part over the gauges.
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12-21-2017, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 96 Wideglide
Think mine only sounds while I'm moving.
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Good point. Same here.
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12-21-2017, 06:04 PM
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96 Wideglide, It used to chime in raised position, moving or stopped,
CountryB, I think your right about being under dash, I just rechecked and I can faintly hear a beep tone coming from under dash, will check it out tomorrow, I am thinking it might be a flasher type switch similar to blinkers? does anyone know what I should look for, would like to fix it, always nice to have a reminder when tag is in up position. On your turn signal issue have you tried replacing turn signal canister flasher
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12-22-2017, 11:54 AM
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On mine, when you remove that small cover in the dash, you are looking at this setup (where the Tag Alarm is that round thing in the center between the diagnostic connectors).
Do you have an access panel in the top of your dash?
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12-22-2017, 12:05 PM
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Mine still works, but my German Shepherd can barely hear it, and if my engine is running I would miss it altogether. I know it is my drivers side console, just hanging below the tag switch. It is a very small buzzer, about 1/2" across and just a positive and negative lead. It is on my list of things to do, but have not yet tackled it.
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12-22-2017, 12:34 PM
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I do have the removable cover on top of dash over the gauges, I will check to see if it's in there, picture really helps, now I have an idea of what I am looking for.
I'm almost positive beep is coming from under dash, If not there I will try console under tag switch.
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12-22-2017, 12:47 PM
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Hello everyone,
Sorry I can not help with the alarm question as I have completely stopped using the tag lift a number of years ago.
Here is why. This is off topic but may be of interest to some of you. You may or may not be aware of the drive axle vertical support cracks that some are reporting on the pre-2007-2008 Roadmaster S-Chassis.
No one really knows why this has been occurring however some have speculated, especially with coaches with the larger engines, that lifting the tag and putting more weight on the drive axle may contribute to the cracks.
Somewhere around 2007-2008 Monaco stated welding gussets onto the vertical supports reducing the risk of the cracks. It may be a good idea to have this checked out as part of your yearly maintenance.
Stuart
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12-22-2017, 02:24 PM
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I have not heard of this, wonder if this could be more prevalent on the longer 43' to 45' models with more over hang than shorter 40' rigs?
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12-22-2017, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by S-n-L
Hello everyone,
Sorry I can not help with the alarm question as I have completely stopped using the tag lift a number of years ago.
Here is why. This is off topic but may be of interest to some of you. You may or may not be aware of the drive axle vertical support cracks that some are reporting on the pre-2007-2008 Roadmaster S-Chassis.
No one really knows why this has been occurring however some have speculated, especially with coaches with the larger engines, that lifting the tag and putting more weight on the drive axle may contribute to the cracks.
Somewhere around 2007-2008 Monaco stated welding gussets onto the vertical supports reducing the risk of the cracks. It may be a good idea to have this checked out as part of your yearly maintenance.
Stuart
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I thought the consensus was that the use of the "Jake/Engine Brake" was causing the stress and cracks. The heavy loading (braking forces) applied to the differential via driveshaft >transmission>engine path, rather than as normally done via the brake shoes, was putting the stress on those frame brackets.
I suppose no one knows for sure.
Just lifting the Tag to make a tight turn (under 10mph) should not be that stressful.
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12-22-2017, 05:29 PM
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I've never had an alarm/beeping on ours, but I have been told that above 15 mph or so, the tag will automatically lower... (not that I've checked, but that's what I've been told on here)
However, I just checked my online manual and it says:
Switch on driver console deflates tag axle air bags. The bar light on the switch is illuminated when the tag axle air bags are deflated.
NOTE:
Deflate the tag axle air bags when making sharp turns under 5 mph.
Do not drive the motorhome over 5 MPH with tag axle air bags deflated.
The manufacturer will not be held responsible for any damage that may occur from driving with the tag axle air bags deflated.
BUT, on page 231:
The tag axle switch (located on the driver’s console) deflates the tag axle air bags. Two lights are located on the switch: the tag axle icon will illuminate with the park lights and the lower bar light will illuminate when the tag axle switch is on and the transmission is in neutral, reverse or first gear.
When the transmission is in second through sixth gear, the tag axle air bags are automatically inflated and the light is off. Deflate the tag axle air bags when performing tight maneuvers less than 5 mph to reduce turn radius and help reduce the tag axle tires from scuffing.
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12-22-2017, 05:38 PM
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Not sure if they auto lower, I only use mine when making tight turns like backing into storage shed or turning around in very tight areas, never over 5 mph, tag is beeping (or was) entire time in raised position, I would think yours is designed to also beep, your beeper may have failed.
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12-22-2017, 05:55 PM
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Yes, they will lower on their own if you reach somewhere in the 10 - 15mph range, without manually lowering.
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