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Old 12-16-2014, 09:35 AM   #1
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To Gel or not to Gel (House Batteries)

Having issues with my wet batteries leaking over the past several years. Batteries are about 4 years old (U2200's). I do have a battery filler that stops at a certain level to avoid over filling. I have modified my inverter (Magnum Pure Since Wave) options to help reduce leakage but to no avail. It appears that all the batteries are leaking. Caps and seals look good. I am thinking of replacing them with Gel type batteries. Has anyone replaced their wet batteries with Gel and how have the Gel batteries performed? We do not do a lot of dry camping as we have done in the past. Acid leakage is starting to eat through battery tray. Appreciate any comments; If you use Gel battery which one did your purchase.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:51 AM   #2
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From what I have read, AGM outperforms gel.

http://lifelinebatteries.com
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:58 AM   #3
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Here is what they say at Lifeline.

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Lifeline batteries are the best thing since fried rice! No off gassing, no leakage, no corrosion in the compartment...they're great.
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Old 12-17-2014, 12:09 AM   #5
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Our U-2200's lasted one month short of 10 years and required very little care after I added 4 oz of mineral oil to each cell. We have an old MSW inverter with 3 stage charging. The battery box is almost totally clear of corrosion even after 12 years. I see very little need, for us at least, to use anything but wet cell batteries.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:00 AM   #6
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I seriously doubt you can find GEL in the size you need.. They are fast falling out of favor and being eliminated by AGM.

Though OPTIMA confuses folks by calling their AGMs both AGM and Gel depending on which piece of braggware you are reading (BY THE WAY AVOID OPTIMA for other resaons)

Flooded wet cells do leak a little, But there are two things you can do to reduce that.

1: The proper converter.. Mine needed (when new) to be watered annually, as they age they need it more often.

2: Fill level. Many will tell you: Fill to the bottom of the filler tube
(Or Split Ring, those two terms are used interchangably, if you look at the bottom of the tube you will see why)

I, and I think DEKA say 1/8 to 1/4 inch BELOW that. Re-adjust your auto-filler.
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For me wet cells seem to do the trick, I keep the electrolyte just below the fill tubes about 1/8" below the split rings, been doing that for over 2 years, no leakage, batteries are clean along with the battery box.i try not to use the inverter when I don't have to, genset runs a lot, until quiet hours if need be.
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Having issues with my wet batteries leaking over the past several years. Batteries are about 4 years old (U2200's). I do have a battery filler that stops at a certain level to avoid over filling. I have modified my inverter (Magnum Pure Since Wave) options to help reduce leakage but to no avail. It appears that all the batteries are leaking. Caps and seals look good. I am thinking of replacing them with Gel type batteries. Has anyone replaced their wet batteries with Gel and how have the Gel batteries performed? We do not do a lot of dry camping as we have done in the past. Acid leakage is starting to eat through battery tray. Appreciate any comments; If you use Gel battery which one did your purchase.
My guess is the battery filler is your problem. Many folks fill their batteries until the liquid is just at the notch in the fill ring. That does not provide enough area for the gas to escape and can force liquid out the fill caps. The liquid level should be 1/8 to 1/4 inch below the fill ring providing all the area at the top of the cell for the gas to escape from the electrolyte.

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Old 12-18-2014, 04:40 AM   #9
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I have to agree AGM is the only way to go, from past experience over the years, or at the very lest a sealed up wet cell with no fill openings. I have 8 batteries under the middle of the basement system which could only be serviced at a equipped shop anyway. I did not put in the batteries as it came that way when I bought the coach . Seems I have 4 AGMs and four wet cells the best I can tell looking thru a small hole into the sealed up compartment. Getting access to any wet cells for checking would be nearly impossible . Looks like one day I will need to change all to AGM.
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I also had tremendous corrosion issues with my wet cells. Replaced with AGM's. Gel cells are not very robust.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:48 AM   #11
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Look at Water Mizer battery caps. Stops a lot if not all of your problems with wet batts. I,ve used them for 6 years and my batt compartment looks like new. My current batts 2200 from US Batts all check good so I hope to get 7 years out of them
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dont mess with kiddie batts step up to a man sized bat...


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Lifelines are pricey but so far I do like them. Had Mastertech put them in at the Perry FMCA rally last March.


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I am just replacing my 4 Sams Club Everyready 6v glf cart batts in my Monaco Dynasty ('03). They've lasted over 3 years but I now find they are down to about 25% with a ball type hydrometer. I have to use a CPAP breathing machine at night and found the batteries did not last the night. The heater was running a lot because it was below 32 that night. However, I figure I had better replace and am thinking of Interstate based on some advice from those that should know. I don't dry camp much but if I need to, I would really like the CPAP machine to keep running. Any comments on this would be appreciated. We are now full-timers so are trying to learn better practices as soon as we can. Where do I find U2200 batteries?
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