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04-17-2022, 05:20 PM
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Towing lights not working
2005 Monaco Knight. All lights on the coach work perfectly. Problem is I'm not getting all the lights on my toad to work. When I test the plug in on the coach, on the 5 round receptacle I'm only getting power to right blinker and head lights. So I know my ground is good. When I follow the coach plug up the line there is another flat 6 connector that the coach round 5 comes down from. At that 6 flat connector I am only getting right blinker and head lights also.
Where do I go from hers? Is there another fuse for tow hook up that I'm missing?
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04-17-2022, 07:23 PM
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You may have a relay for each, or at least a fuse, likely in a fuse box in the driver area. Sorry, I'm not familiar with your chassis.
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04-17-2022, 07:26 PM
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Has it worked before? You said you get head lights of the toad. Never saw head lights wired on a toad do you mean running lights?
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04-18-2022, 04:01 AM
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According to page 308 of your coach's owner's manual (link here), the fuse for the rear left turn/stop signal is in the Monaco 1 fuse box. It's marked "LT REAR TURN." The relay for that circuit is in the same box.
Also, you should add a "signature" to your profile. It contains whatever info you want; most people put info about their coach there, so they don't have to type it into each message. Instructions for adding a signature are here.
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04-18-2022, 07:24 AM
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Look in the compartments on the passenger side near the rear area. Don't know if those fuse/relays are there but they are on our 2008 Endeavor and it seems Monaco followed their layouts somewhat the same over the years.
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04-18-2022, 01:35 PM
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Towing lights not working
Yes the lights all worked before. By head lights I meant to say running lights. All my fuses in the front left outside compartment have been tested and are good. It seems to me that if a fuse blown in the coach fuse box in the front left compartment the the coach the the lights for that corresponding fuse wouldn't be working on the coach.
All lights work on the coach.
I'm thinking it is something or connection aft of the coach lights themselves.
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04-18-2022, 03:00 PM
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I don't have your coach. I would check the input and output of the 5 to 4 wire tow converter. The converter takes the standard vehicle wireing that for the rear lights 5 wires (LT, RT, brake, running, ground) and converts it to trailer wireing 4 wire (LT, RT, running, Ground) brakes use the left and right turn.
Your 5 wire plug going to the toad should be wired LT, RT, running ground, battery charge.
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04-18-2022, 06:48 PM
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As mentioned, follow your harness from the RV connection back as far as you can to see if there is a converter box of some kind.
Here is what my rear distribution panel looks like. Use Ctrl and the number 5 at the same time to clear up the picture.
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04-18-2022, 07:28 PM
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Towing lights not working
That is very interesting. Where on your coach is this distribution panel located?
I've followed the wire harness and I get lost in a bundle of wires.
Thanks for your info.
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04-19-2022, 11:29 AM
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This fuse box on my 08 HR Endeavor is in the far rear right compartment.
Can't say if yours has this secondary fuse/relay panel.
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04-19-2022, 08:40 PM
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Towing lights not working
thanks for info.
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04-20-2022, 07:16 AM
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After finding an owners manual for your yr and model it appears there is not a rear run fuse/relay box. Sorry to lead you on a ghost chase.
There appears to be two smaller boxes below the driver in the outside compartment. Inside the "Monaco 1" box there are fuses and relays.
I suspect the relays are the small four pin type that are plug in. They can be a bit stubborn to pull out.
After checking for power on both sides of the fuses associated with your issue swap the relay associated with it with another.
I bought a sack full of these years back.
If someone has more information on any additional fuse panels it would help.
Be patient, someone will come along and give better advice than me.
I would think the failure of any of those fuses and relays would cause different symptoms.
A corroded connector could cause you headaches as well and ultimately you may need a signal tracer to work backwards from the affected part that is not working.
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04-25-2022, 01:55 PM
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Tow Lights not Working
I found the blown fuse this weekend. It was in the front left compartment inside another black box marked Monaco 1. I would have never known this existed without the help of this forum. I would have thought that if the coach lights were working the fuses would all be intact. I didn't know there was a distribution box for the tow light hook ups. So I changed all the tow light plugs to new and cut out some of places Monaco had made splices.
Thanks to all for your valuable input. You guys rock.
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