Unusual electrical problem!

[BigPapaYams]

Micki49 wrote:

Originally Posted by micki49

Mine just did the same on my 2008 Monaco Knight. The Soleniod for the salesman switch that is located in the front drivers side compartment inside the fuse compartment went bad. Bypassed the soleniod until new one comes in this week.

Micki49,
We were on a trip this week and ALL of the 12-V quit in our coach. I remember reading in this forum about the switch and the solenoid issues, so I started out by checking the switch.
Switch appears to be good (checked for continuity with VOM) but I was unable to find the solenoid for the "salesman switch".

I was checking EVERYWHERE and while in the electrical bay (front of coach, driver's side, below level of feet) I noticed a large heavy solenoid in the upper-left corner. I spent quite a few hours poring over the electrical schematics but couldn't find a solenoid that said "Main 12-volt control", "salesman switch" or anything of the sort. I remember this one because it looks exactly like the "starting solenoid" in the rear engine bay (under the bed) that I recently replaced for the chassis.

Would it be possible for you to take a picture of the solenoid you are referring to and post it or send it to via PM? You'd be doing me a great favor and maybe others too.

Thanks for your consideration.

[micki49]

Ok here you go. It is the one with the yellow tage. In another post they said they tapped on it with a screwdriver and it started working again.

[YC1]

Jay, yours probably will look nothing like the one shown because yours is earlier. Take a look at DR4film's picture to see if that is closer.

[Joe_Rocket]

I have a 2003 HR Endeavor 40PBDD. Where is my Salesman Relay? In front driver side Electrical Box, that relay is labeled AUX Start Relay connecting Chassis and Engine Batteries.

[taz4028]

We too encountered this famous BATT CUT OUT switch.
Ours lost all power while I was outside cooking and the wife in the bathroom.
Only one roaming the coach was the cat,she often jumps through the screen door opening to get out,figured she must have hit it on the way out.

[10Boomer]

Originally Posted by Dr4Film

Many years ago I bumped mine way TOO many times so I installed a guard over the switch (see first photo). Then one night at 3 in the morning it finally happened, no DC which meant no toilet. The very next day I removed the cable from one side of the relay and stuck it on the other side and taped up the purple wire (see second photo).

I have had zero problems with the 12 VDC system ever since and never have to rack my one brain cell to think about what the hell is wrong.

Dr4Film ----- Richard

Richard question do you have a supplier of the switches pictured?

[YC1]

Look Ma, no "Salesman" switch. The switch is removed and the wire socket is tucked inside.

I can now reach inside and run my finger across the light switches until something comes on so I can see. Then I can turn off the ones I don'w want.

Of course a motion detector would work but this was fun and no more cracked corners on the plastics.

[Dr4Film]

Originally Posted by 10Boomer

Richard question do you have a supplier of the switches pictured?

I changed manufactures of this type of switch from Sigma to ones made by Carlings Technology. They are better built, smoother to operate and just overall a better quality.

I ordered a dozen on my last purchase. Here is the web site where you can purchase them.

Carlings Mini-Rocker Switch

Dr4Film ----- Richard

[micki49]

Very nice YC1. Did you make your own base plate to mount the switchs.

[YC1]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I used 1/8 aluminum and covered it in marine vinyl. The plastic device shown from Amazon makes it easy to mount switches. It is a bit tricky to order. They do not come apart so you order them by the number of switches you wish to mount side by side. Cutting one hole for several switches is easier than individually.

[micki49]

You did a very nice job. Thanks for the info.

[YC1]

Here are more switches. You can get them with 0,1, and 2 bulbs. Different colors too. If you want a different wording that can be done too.

Check the few pages beyond 923 for more pictures.