Window switch wiring

[BPRIEST]

I have a 2009 Monaco dynasty, l am looking for wiring diagram for driver side power window. The owner before me bypassed existing switch and wired it thought toggle switch and l do not no how it was originally wired

[MSHappyCampers]

Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!

Hopefully someone with that model will be along to help! Have fun and keep her between the ditches!

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!

[hypoxia]

Is this a vertical sliding window? I have a photo of mine and it just has one 12 volt plus and negative wire to the motor.

If yours is the same and just FYI:
Power Window assembly originally manufactured by Atwood. Atwood Roll Up Window Assy. 263439, that division was sold to:

Challenger Door
1205 E Lincoln St
Nappanee, IN 46550
Phone 574-773-0470
challengerdoor.com

3300 Power Window Regulator Assembly Part Number 2-250989
12/2017 Price was $281.00 plus $25 Shipping Total $306.00

I also replaced the beltline weatherstrip for the window. I used FAIRCHILD 118127 from Rock Auto.

[BPRIEST]

Thank you

[BPRIEST]

Yes it is up and down vertical window, the switch is in a battery of two and gets power for other switch connection. Also there is four terminal connection at switch. I think switch have some kind of sensor on it. It is wired now with the toggle like yours but they just ties in to power wire bungalow in that location. Thank you for info on manufacturing that is a place to start

[fcmcelr]

This is a chassis multiplex coach. There is no direct wire connection between the switch and the window motor. The switch sends a digital signal to the CCM module in the FRB and the CCM chassis multiplex computer will operate a relay on the large printed circuit board to operate the window.

You need to find a shop with the Cadet software to troubleshoot this problem. That's likely why a separate switch just for the window was added.

[BPRIEST]

Do the wires from motor go back to the board and were is this board now the wires goes to toggle switch. Do you no of any shops that have this software or here l can look

Thanks

[fcmcelr]

OK,. This can get really complicated really fast but here goes.

All of your dash switches are on printed circuit boards in groups of 3 switches per board soldered under the group of 3 switches. These circuit boards sends a digital signal when you press a switch. The digital signal of all your dash switches are sent in two loops of master and slave switch circuit boards to the CCM located in your front run bay FRB. The CCM computer decodes that digital signal and activates the relays for Windows up down on the large printed circuit board in the FRB.

Key is to isolate the problem by finding out what other dash switches don't work. Likely you have a bad slave or master switch panel or a bad switch panel connection. Most techs are clueless and opt to bypass the system as you found.

REV can troubleshoot and reprogram replacement switch panels. (At least they could a year back).

There are specific schematics posted on Monacoers.org and other web sites but likely of not much use if you don't understand how a multiplex system works.

Frank M
08 Dynasty

[hypoxia]

Originally Posted by fcmcelr

OK,. This can get really complicated really fast but here goes.Frank M08 Dynasty

I didn't give a thought to the multiplex chassis! Interesting!

[BPRIEST]

Wow, thanks for info, l already got new switch from rev. I guess l will look at that web site and see if l can find wiring diagram

[fcmcelr]

Here is a link to my Dropbox with the switch panel multiplex wiring diagram. These switch panels and the board below each group of 3 switches were programmed by software from Eaton. A replacement board needs to be reprogrammed to work.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xs13hb8skg...iring.pdf?dl=0

Do all the rest of your dash switches work? If not, check all the board connections. These boards daisy chain together.

Also, here is a link to the circuit on the large pcb in the FRB.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5b22w7w3ok...20PCB.pdf?dl=0

Frank M
08 Dynasty

[BPRIEST]

Thank you again ,how did you get this info and how did you get so smart did you work for Monaco. Yes all the other switch’s work the only one l have a problem with is this two switch cluster. It is air car which is to blow air to clear rear camera and the one for window. Thank you again for all your help

[fcmcelr]

Nope, never worked for Monaco. But I've owned motorhomes for over 30 years and I've always done my own repairs. So, over the years I learned a lot. I bought my current coach in April 07 and it's yet to see a repair shop. (I even mount my own tires.)

My 08 Dynasty was pre chassis multiplex but I've helped out a number of other folks that do have multiplex systems like yours. I need to tell you that the large PCB in the FRB has a history of catching fire due to an internal short. Unfortunately Monaco never properly fuse this board. There is a document on the Monacoers.org group showing pictures of this burned board, how a replacement was hand wired and how to properly fuse the battery inputs to this board.

Since both switches on the same board are bad, it's either a bad board connection or a bad board. Rev should be able to program a new board for you if it's not a connector issue.

Hope all this info helps.

Frank
08 Dynasty

[BPRIEST]

Helps a lot Frank thanks again, l think l will be asking for help again so talk to you later

Bob Priest