Wrap film on poorly painted surfaces

[danes-on-tour]

Like many other Monaco's we have areas around the roof where either the paint or the clear coat is peeling. I have tried to repair this but without success and it would seem that if you want a proper repair you need to take the job to a professional spray painter.

Over this Christmas i met up with old friends and one of them is wrapping cars in film for a living. He used something like this. This goes on f.x. taxi's when they require full body advertising.

I was thinking that it may be both cheaper and quicker to just cover parts of the bad paint job with film since this allegedly will withstand high temperatures from extended periods of sunshine.

Did any of you try anything like this?

[Dr4Film]

Great looking stuff. It would be worth a try to see how it would stand up to the environment, abrasion from walking and cleaning.

I have chosen to cover the front and rear cap areas with a white Tuff Coat type of coating. It comes in quart & gallon cans.

Ultra TUFF - Home Page

Dr4Film ----- Richard

[danes-on-tour]

Originally Posted by Dr4Film

Great looking stuff. It would be worth a try to see how it would stand up to the environment, abrasion from walking and cleaning.

I don't intend to apply it to areas that I will be walking on. I would expect wear and tear to similar to standard paint jobs on a car, i.e. durable through driving and washing. I will bring with me a couple of small samples of the film which I intend to stick somewhere out of sight - this just to see how it behaves, but I would only expect the best from a class act like 3M.

Originally Posted by Dr4Film

I have chosen to cover the front and rear cap areas with a white Tuff Coat type of coating. It comes in quart & gallon cans.

Ultra TUFF - Home Page

How long have you had this on your coach, and how does it look to be holding up?

[Steve N Sal]

This seems to be a problem with different mfg. My coach had the problem back in 06 and the previous owner had the front cap and sides repainted. This past summer things started to go South with the front cap again so after researching some body shops and the mfg the price was just out of the question. In turn I had an auto parts store mix some paint to match and I purchased some clear and did the job myself. Not perfect but it will do for now. I'm sure it won't last as I'm NO professional painter by any means. Wish I could post some pics but I deleted them from my computer.

The wrap concept looks great but in looking at the different colors that are available I didn't see any color that would really coordinate with the colors on our coach. Oh well as this technology advances I'm sure they will come with some newer colors and maybe down the road it might just deserve a better look at. It's a shame that these problems have to happen, especially with what these rigs cost.

Anyway I've rambled enough. Good Luck with your fix and hope it lasts.

Have a great Holiday Season!!!

[moisheh]

There sre some new types of wraps that can duplicate paint. Howvere I would suggest that you go to Algadones , Mexico. Just a short distance from Yuma and have one of the 2 body shops strip your paint on the roof and apply new base and clear. Many RV's and even bus conversions have had this done. Very good work and the price will be awsome. If you are interested I will look for the phone#.

[danes-on-tour]

Originally Posted by moisheh

There sre some new types of wraps that can duplicate paint. Howvere I would suggest that you go to Algadones , Mexico. Just a short distance from Yuma and have one of the 2 body shops strip your paint on the roof and apply new base and clear. Many RV's and even bus conversions have had this done. Very good work and the price will be awsome. If you are interested I will look for the phone#.

Unfortunately this is not an option for us since we are at risk of not being let back into the US afterwards. For some reason immigration do not like it when we come and go several times, and this is even though we are well within the limit of days we are allowed in the US per year. Can you imagine us being rejected while having our motorhome and car stuck on the Mexican side? We don't even dare to go on a day visit across the border without the vehicles.

[WheelingIt]

I'll be interested in the result on this too. Our HR is having exactly the same peeling issue.

[WeatherTodd]

Ive seen "aged" wraps after a few years near the ocean. Its not pretty

[sc3283]

Nothing wrong with a wrap for a quick fix o something you don't plan to keep....paint can be applied if done properly with proper prep work and will last. It seems factory paint on most of the Monacos didn't match the quality of the rest of the coach

[danes-on-tour]

I have today been writing to 3M asking for their advice with respect to suitability for this purpose and for the durability for this product. I will post their reply when I get it.

[Dr4Film]

Originally Posted by The Danes Are Coming

I don't intend to apply it to areas that I will be walking on. I would expect wear and tear to similar to standard paint jobs on a car, i.e. durable through driving and washing. I will bring with me a couple of small samples of the film which I intend to stick somewhere out of sight - this just to see how it behaves, but I would only expect the best from a class act like 3M.

How long have you had this on your coach, and how does it look to be holding up?

The tops of both the front & rear caps have had the clear-coat peel off extensively. I had a friend shoot some CC on it so the gel-coat underneath would not get damaged but it still looks terrible. Since it's on the roof and not visible, I really don't care what other people think, I am more concern about durability and longevity.

I power wash the roof 3-4 times a year. I have to walk on all areas of the roof to accomplish the power washing. The Ultra-Tuff coat seems to be the product that will give me the best protection.

I haven't coated it as yet as I am waiting to do that when I get back to California in the fall of 2012. Until that time, the temporary CC coating will do.

Dr4Film ----- Richard

[rpasetto]

Originally Posted by Dr4Film

Great looking stuff. It would be worth a try to see how it would stand up to the environment, abrasion from walking and cleaning.

I have chosen to cover the front and rear cap areas with a white Tuff Coat type of coating. It comes in quart & gallon cans.

Ultra TUFF - Home Page

Dr4Film ----- Richard

Looked at their website; there seem to have quite a few different coating products. WHich one did you choose? How long has it been on the coach?

[bkphotog]

Hi Everyone

I have had the same problem on my coach

I have done alot of research on the issue and have found out a couple of interesting facts.

1. )) This problem is not particular to any one manufacture. The problem found on many brands and units.

2.)) The manufactures seem to be shy when they spray the clear coat down the cove of the motorhomes. Mostly the curve coming down the sides and the front and rear shells. Why I do not know.

This information was spelled out to me from two firms that repaint MH and large trucks.

I do not know much about putting on any of the products discussed in this thread, but you can do a search in Irv2 on the subject of "Clear Coat Peeling" and get alot more information on the subject.

I decided with my unit to just have the whole area around the cove and the tops of the front and back shells re-sprayed. The only proper way that this is done is by carefully wet sanding all of the old clearcoat down to some point on the side of the MH. Most of the time the painter can find a molding strip to make the hidden stop of the process. ie. the side rain gutter. Then have it re-painted and clear coated again but this time done with enough spray. Not sure how long this will last but it certainly looks like a new coach in the aforementioned areas.

I went to an independant painter that specificly works with one of my MH repair and maintanance shops. The price was reasonable and just under $1500.00. I also got an estimate from a more expensive shop that repaints complete MH's and his price was in the $2500.00 range. Any ways if you are good with spray painting and matching of colors you might try it yoiurself. You could also carefully just wet sand the bad clear coat off to even the scaring and then buy some two part clear coat in "rattle" cans and try to correct it that way. For me I am not very good at spraying and so I went the way mentioned. As stated earlier there is alot of discussion on this very subject here in Irv2. Just use the search feature on the subject of "CLEAR COAT PEELING." I would give the reference but I really do not remenber the exact thread title.

Bill

[Drifter]

This problem with the clear coat is not bad clear coat and not bad paint. The problem is a combination of paint application and missing sealer primer, that's right there is no primer. The side walls are glass panels with grey gel coat that looks like primer but is not and the roof is a fiberglass like product which was never designed in my opinion for paint.

Here's a picture of our coach with the on going peeling of clear coat and deterioration of paint. You'll see below the missing clear coat that there are little check marks, those go all the way into the fiberglass gel coat, so they must be dealt with or the repair area will never be fixed.



The product that I will be using is a two part primer sealer that I helped a friend that owns a body shop install on his coach.


As you can see in this picture, that the peeling clear coat is industry wide.


Now this is the way I'm repairing ours and others have there own ideas. This is just my opinion, it is just what I have learned by actually doing one.
Please give all of us the process that you use to fix yours. I'm always learning.