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Old 05-13-2009, 05:23 PM   #1
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Question Hose reel

Bryan or anyone, The hose reel hose where it connects to the cold water line is that fitting a CHECK VALVE also?

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teabag,

SKIA doesn't have this feature, cause it wasn't offered when my unit was new. My best guess would be a checkvalve like the one on the inlet fitting connection on the old time units. This check valve is a undirectional valve to allow flow into the rig and not out when you are using the water pump. rockin'
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teabag,

SKIA doesn't have this feature, cause it wasn't offered when my unit was new. My best guess would be a checkvalve like the one on the inlet fitting connection on the old time units. This check valve is a undirectional valve to allow flow into the rig and not out when you are using the water pump. rockin'
Yes Tom that was my assumption but wanted to make sure or put one in. You know what assume does for you.

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Old 05-13-2009, 07:31 PM   #4
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Hi All:

Yep, wondering the same thing myself. A GREAT option for sure. I don't particularly like the 1/2 inch hose and am considering exchanging for a 5/8 or 3/4 inch one.

Does anyone have any experience changing out the 1/2 inch hose?

Also, I'd like to get a housing that locks that would incorporate the black tank flush out fitting and the fresh water hook-up fitting. The "manual" fresh water fill-up has a locking door. Guess it's a piece of mind thing wondering about the exposed fittings.

Other observations anyone?

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Old 05-21-2009, 01:19 PM   #5
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Ken, with 19 years with exposed fittings, I only had one exposed fitting go bad. I suspect it was due to a poor winterization on my part. My only issue was trying to find those plastic covers. Those seemed to last only a couple of years for me. I wouldn't sweat the exposed fiitings, though having a housing similar to an exterior shower housing would look pretty clean! David
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I don't particularly like the 1/2 inch hose and am considering exchanging for a 5/8 or 3/4 inch one.

Does anyone have any experience changing out the 1/2 inch hose?
Ken, we're still learning to use ours. My only concern would be shorter water hose, though if I ran into a situation I've got two 25 ft 5/8 inch hoses I could go to by hooking up to the external water fitting. The hose that's on those reels is designed to be replaced. (The hookup is just inside the basement door on our unit.) I'm thinking you'd just need to take your time and it'd work out fine. Unfortunately, I've never been able to wrap a hose back the way I unrolled it! David
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You won't out flow a 1/2 hose. Go for the length, far more useful. Every faucet/shower in a sitx-n-brix will have a 1/2 or even smaller 3/8 in the line. What else would you be concerned about?
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Here's a web side provided by U of Idaho on the flow rates of a water hose. Very useful information as everything we learn normally is.

I will not dispute what one uses, especially if it works for them. That said, I use 5/8 in. hoses and normally hook up with a total of 35 ft of hose. 25 ft from hose bib to filter box, 10 ft from filter to units inlet. I also carry an additional 25ft for those times when needed. Never felt short on flow or pressure so far.

While exploring my unit, I discovered that all the water supply lines in my unit are 1/2 in. PEX. Would also estimate that I don't have a run (length of supply line to any fixture) longer than 12 ft from the inlet, as all my plumbing is centrally located. While it may be true that Stick and Bricks use 3/8 and 1/2 inch supply lines to the fixtures….they are normally and should be connected to larger supply lines that branch down and reduce in size to provide a constant pressure throughout the system. Meaning running a dish washer in the kitchen shouldn't cause a loss in pressure in the shower.

As our Excels don't have the demand of a S & B, I prefer to have a 5/8 " hose because of the flow rate even at lower campground flow rate/pressures. For those that have and use a washer, take a shower and clean up after dinner….one might notice a loss of flow/pressure using a 1/2" hose that a 5/8" might not have. If you use a lot of water in the unit at the same time, a larger supply hose may help.

Using the calculator, a 1/2" hose that is 50' in length, @ 45 psi will have a flow rate of 13 gpm (gal per minute). A 5/8" hose will have a flow of 24 gpm. Almost twice the rate for the same length. RVDude is possibly correct that: You won't out flow a 1/2 hose. Go for the length, far more useful.

I use the 5/8" because that's what I use….even though it takes more storage space.
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Also, I'd like to get a housing that locks that would incorporate the black tank flush out fitting and the fresh water hook-up fitting. The "manual" fresh water fill-up has a locking door. Guess it's a piece of mind thing wondering about the exposed fittings.

Thanks,
Ken C.
Personally I worry about someone gaining access to my black water system to extract my personal bodily fluids from the tank and analyze my DNA.
Use this information to clone me for nefarious purposes.
Populate the world with my likeness without compensating me as the original owner.

On the other hand, maybe they'd get DW's DNA. After all, she spends more time in the bathroom.

Don't get me started on the gray water!

Uh oh,
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I think the original question got answered but I was just scanning the responses. To answer your question, the Reel-EZ does have a check valve. It is on the ceiling of the basement and located just outside the Reel-EZ, where the waterline connects to the Reel-EZ.

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For those that have and use a washer, take a shower and clean up after dinner….one might notice a loss of flow/pressure using a 1/2" hose that a 5/8" might not have.
I believe I'll pass...
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[QUOTE=ExcelRVGuy;505155]I think the original question got answered but I was just scanning the responses. To answer your question, the Reel-EZ does have a check valve. It is on the ceiling of the basement and located just outside the Reel-EZ, where the waterline connects to the Reel-EZ.

Bryan

Thanks for your observations davydee and Bryan.

I'll go with a HD 5/8 and cut off the fittings. Will replace with brass hose bibbs and hose clamps. I did that before on the Dutch Star we had for several years. NO water leaking ever from those fittings cinched up tight with hose clamps.

I wonder if the Reel-EZ check valve Bryan mentioned is a limiting factor for water flow? Anyone ever replace it with a larger one?

Bryan or anyone?

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I think the original question got answered but I was just scanning the responses. To answer your question, the Reel-EZ does have a check valve. It is on the ceiling of the basement and located just outside the Reel-EZ, where the waterline connects to the Reel-EZ.

Bryan

Thanks for your observations davydee and Bryan.

I'll go with a HD 5/8 and cut off the fittings. Will replace with brass hose bibbs and hose clamps. I did that before on the Dutch Star we had for several years. NO water leaking ever from those fittings cinched up tight with hose clamps.

I wonder if the Reel-EZ check valve Bryan mentioned is a limiting factor for water flow? Anyone ever replace it with a larger one?

Bryan or anyone?

Thanks,
Ken C.
Ken every check valve is limiting the flow and if you have a water filter after the pressure regulator that also is a reducer in the pressure. You have one at the city water, outlet side of the water pump and some are installed going into the cold water side of the water heater. So you can see we have a lot more than meet the eye.

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Bryan or anyone, The hose reel hose where it connects to the cold water line is that fitting a CHECK VALVE also?

Dick
Back to the original question here. My check valve is leaking. Need to replace it. Why do I think so? Cause water leaks out of the hose reel garden hose inlet fitting every time I use the water pump. I always use the Hose Reel for city water, so have never tested this leak with the city water inlet instead.

I would rather not take it off ahead of time, just in case I can't easily find another that same day.

Can anyone tell me the specs for this check valve? I hope to find it at Lowes or Home Depot.
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