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07-30-2013, 12:36 PM
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RV R-Values
I currently have a tag along trailer and soon will move to a 5r. Have been looking at the Teton (No longer made) for its super build quality, high r values and its super quiet ac system.
I can't affford a new model but I am wondering what year Excel increased their insulation values to a "minus 10 degree warrenty"? Was it 2008? Trying to find the best bang for the buck under 40k. Thanks for your help
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07-30-2013, 04:23 PM
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Excel Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Originally Posted by journeyman29
I currently have a tag along trailer and soon will move to a 5r. Have been looking at the Teton (No longer made) for its super build quality, high r values and its super quiet ac system.
I can't affford a new model but I am wondering what year Excel increased their insulation values to a "minus 10 degree warrenty"? Was it 2008? Trying to find the best bang for the buck under 40k. Thanks for your help
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Welcome journey,
I don't have the numbers in front of me....maybe Bryan Tillett, Pres. of Excel will chime in here.
I think you're right that the -10*F rating started in '08. I had heard there wasn't a lot changes from the previous models, but some minor tweaking and then it was retested and passed to the new rating.
What I can tell you.....that is the one big strength Excel has over their competition. We've owned 3 Excels total and FTed in them for 9 years. Insulation is great hot and cold. We've spent some time in some friends SOB (some other brand) in extreme cold and heat and they were no fun to be in. When you sit in the slideout and nearly freeze and stand up and walk down the middle of the rig and it's warm! Wow. Anyway....I'm sure others will back me up that an Excel is very well insulated. rockin'
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07-30-2013, 06:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman29
I currently have a tag along trailer and soon will move to a 5r. Have been looking at the Teton (No longer made) for its super build quality, high r values and its super quiet ac system.
I can't affford a new model but I am wondering what year Excel increased their insulation values to a "minus 10 degree warrenty"? Was it 2008? Trying to find the best bang for the buck under 40k. Thanks for your help
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it was 2008 but if you go to off-topic page 2082, 12-22-10 is where I got answered before
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07-30-2013, 06:40 PM
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Here's the link to above.
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07-30-2013, 11:00 PM
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Thanks for the fast replys. I am looking at a 2007 33RSO model which the wife and I like (lots of kitchen counter work space and price point etc,)and wondering if that year has the same r values including slide-outs as later models
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07-30-2013, 11:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman29
Thanks for the fast replys. I am looking at a 2007 33RSO model which the wife and I like (lots of kitchen counter work space and price point etc,)and wondering if that year has the same r values including slide-outs as later models
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Close enough for government work. A couple of things to check close on those older Excels are slide floors for soft spots especially near the ends. Make sure caulking has been properly maintained all around the rig, roof, sides, moldings, and etc. A leaker can get real expensive to update. Good luck, rockin'
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07-31-2013, 07:52 AM
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We began offering a ZERO degree guarantee in model year 2004. Then with virtually no issues, we made a couple of modifications, added an extra layer of insulation in the holding tank and water tank area, moved the brass water tank elbow away from the steel main frame, altered the heat ducts a bit and increased our guarantee to MINUS TEN degrees in model year 2008.
I literally only remember 2 issues in the last 10 years requiring adjustments. One was when we discovered the brass water tank elbow freezing by laying up against the steel lower main. The other was when we failed to route our heat duct properly.
I've been playing around with the idea of increasing again, this time would require no changes, but so far, no other manufacturer has been able to come close to us so there's really no reason to raise the bar.... If another manufacturer wants to challenge us, we're prepared to go as low as needed. I hope this doesn't sound flip, we're just that confident in our product.
We have a salesman that works for an Excel dealership and lived for nearly 2 weeks in MINUS 38 DEGREE nightly temps without issue. Needless to say, he's sold on our insulation values.
Speaking of values, keep in mind that when manufacturers brag about R30 here and R40 there.... there's not a manufacturer in this industry who actually has their coaches R-tested!
Hope this answers your questions.
Bryan
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07-31-2013, 08:21 AM
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Excel Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's
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Our friend, RetFF spent a summer in Az (not by choice) in a 05 Excel with one AC. He said he did a few things to control sun heat gain but the rig did great in temps up to 116F and nights that never went below 95!
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07-31-2013, 08:30 AM
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Bryan, down here we need a 110 degree guarantee!
Have you seen the forecast?
All kidding aside, our Excel is very comfortable in 100+ degree weather.
I hope to never test the -10 guarantee......
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07-31-2013, 12:03 PM
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Well, I've seen both ends of the temperature scale with my Excel and can say it does very well with both extremes. In 100 degree heat in Denver I set the temperature to 75° and it had no problem maintaining that temperature. The cold weather is more of a concern up here than the heat and the heat pumps in the A/C units and the electric fireplace can keep the unit warm without even using much propane.I have been very happy with the insulation part of the unit.
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2012 Excel W41GKE Wild Cargo
(2015 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, 500/1850) (2015 GMC 3500 Denali D/A 4X4 Dually)
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07-31-2013, 03:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ExcelRVGuy
Speaking of values, keep in mind that when manufacturers brag about R30 here and R40 there.... there's not a manufacturer in this industry who actually has their coaches R-tested!
Hope this answers your questions.
Bryan
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Has Excel R-tested any of their units? Just like the main entrance being located in a slide...someone has to be the first. I'd love to see an honest comparison.
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07-31-2013, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RickS
Well, I've seen both ends of the temperature scale with my Excel and can say it does very well with both extremes. In 100 degree heat in Denver I set the temperature to 75° and it had no problem maintaining that temperature. The cold weather is more of a concern up here than the heat and the heat pumps in the A/C units and the electric fireplace can keep the unit warm without even using much propane.I have been very happy with the insulation part of the unit.
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In near or sub zero weather you will freeze up your holding tanks and water lines with out running the furnace as your primary heat source.I have had my 2005 Nash ( nearly a Artic Fox) in -25 weather in Idaho and 100+ weather in Las Vegas and it has performed quite well for the money spent. Some skirting in the winter and some reflective foil in the windows for Vegas summers and everyone survived.
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07-31-2013, 11:57 PM
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Yup! The -23C/-10F warranty for Excel states with furnace running. The nice thing about the heat pump a/c units is they start to fall off in the lower 40 degree range and the furnace takes over automatically since they are tied to the same thermostat.
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2012 Excel W41GKE Wild Cargo
(2015 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, 500/1850) (2015 GMC 3500 Denali D/A 4X4 Dually)
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08-01-2013, 06:16 AM
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Jayco claims they have their RV's tested and temperature certified by Dometic.
Has Excel considered following suit?
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'13 Excel Winslow 34IKE
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