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Old 10-09-2007, 06:24 AM   #1
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Does anyone know what this grey colored real sticky caulking type stuff is that has pushed out in a few areas from the exterior seams and seems to push out from under the white caulking and makes a real sticky mess on the gelcoat as well . It is not all over just in a few places on the roof line, and a couple areas around one of the storage doors I think? Has anyone else experinced this and how best to deal with it?
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Does anyone know what this grey colored real sticky caulking type stuff is that has pushed out in a few areas from the exterior seams and seems to push out from under the white caulking and makes a real sticky mess on the gelcoat as well . It is not all over just in a few places on the roof line, and a couple areas around one of the storage doors I think? Has anyone else experinced this and how best to deal with it?
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:40 AM   #3
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Paul,

What you are seeing is butyl tape that we use to seal between our extrusions and the sidewalls. Every window, access door, and piece of trim has butyl tape under them to protect against water intrusion.

Back in the "OLD" days, butyl tape used to have asbestos fibers in it to help it hold consistancy. Oozing was a much smaller problem back then.

Ever since the EPA forced the butyl manufacturers to reformulate their product, they have yet to find a formula that totally eliminates oozing. It is, however, much better then the early years following the elimination of asbestos.

You will find more oozing (that seems like an odd word when typing it compared to when saying it.. LOL) during the hot summer months when expansion is at it's worst.

I wish it didn't exist but unfortunately it is a necessary evil of our industry.

Hope this explains.

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Old 10-09-2007, 06:44 AM   #4
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Bryan,

That is a great explaination, but can you tell us a safe way of removing excess butyl or markings from it??

Mineral spirits??

what to the folks in assembly use??

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Old 10-09-2007, 07:46 AM   #5
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We use a plastic blade. We call it a putty buddy. If you just scribe around your window frame or along the trim, it will peel off... When we do that after we have already caulked the coach, then we have to re-caulk the area.

If you have residue from the butyl remaining, you can use alcohol to get it off. If that doesn't work, acetone will work also. CAUTION!!! - DO NOT let acetone get in contact with your vinyl graphics or rubber roof.

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Old 10-09-2007, 09:39 AM   #6
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Byran and others,
We use Lacquor Thinner to clean a lot of the messes that Butyl causes. It is not quite as harsh and will clean very well. The only thing is that using laquor on the outside, we will go behind with a spray wax to place protection back into the unit if needed. Also when we trim new butyl we place our blade at a small angle into the extrusion. This way it allows a little room for expansion and you do not get as much runover, per say as you do by square trimming.
Just another way of what we do here.
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Bryan, Thanks for the reply and I think its great that you follow this forum. I would guess SOB manufacturers would be hesitant to do such IMO as they might be asked to answer a tough question they would rather avoid and I have not seen that with you 'Edit'I however must regretfully state that on one major issue with my coach PI as a whole has not stepped up although did try at the begining and then when it evidently became obvious that a solution may not be in effect I was bailed on
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Max1:
Bryan, Thanks for the reply and I think its great that you follow this forum. I would guess SOB manufacturers would be hesitant to do such IMO as they might be asked to answer a tough question they would rather avoid and I have not seen that with you </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Max1,

That's because he knows every aspect of his business and that's one of the reasons why PI is successful. He is now learning about his customers and will eventually gain even more success from that. Most people in upper management positions don't have a clue about the nuts and bolts much less their customers. Bryan, is in a win win situation.
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