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Old 11-29-2012, 03:14 PM   #1
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Water Leaks and Seam Designs

I was the last to post on a recent thread about water leaks and since there was no answer to the question that I raised, I am starting a new thread in hopes of getting a response.

We soon will be replacing our current RV, a 1998 Class C Born Free, with a 5th wheel. While doing research on Excel 5th Wheels, we came across a thread about water leaks and it is very concerning as we have had similar, major water leak issues with the Born Free. Screws completely rusted out with almost nothing left of them etc. Why do these otherwise quality conscious RV Manufacturers refuse to use stainless screws?

Hopefully Peterson Industries has improved the design of their seams and their manufacturing processes since the 2004 model which was the subject of this thread. Born Free did in 2008 and it is my understanding that they have cured most of their water leak issues as a result.

Can anyone tell me if the seam design has been significantly changed (improved) in recent model years?
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:21 PM   #2
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I can tell you there have been many significant improvements on water leak issues throughout the coaches built by PI. I believe the real push for improvement came around 2008 and by 2010 most have been fixed. I think you'll find the QC has really improved in the last 3 years and improves with each unit built. better than most manufacturers overall in it's price range. Also the service after the sales is very good too. They stand behind their product. I don't think you'd be disappointed in any late model Excel.

I often wondered about the Born Free as I've seen some advertisement about each and every unit is water tested at the factory for water leaks. Kinda confirms what I was thinking maybe they had some issues with it in the past! rockin'
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Stainless steel screws do not stop or fix leaks or design flaws. If screws are rusting and breaking then the root of the problem must be corrected. Rusted screws I guess could be concidered early warning. A good annual inspection and maintanence is your best defence on any coach. I have taken some preemptive actions based on what I have learned on this forum. If your concidering a used coach (any coach) be sure to check for soft slide floors and walls with an ice pick. Oh and look for rusty screws. lol
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:28 PM   #4
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I am looking for specifics on any improvements to the seam design which is illustrated in the pictures provided by "Workshop" on the previous thread "Excel water leak - help!". This design, a metal "C" channel secured with screws and covered with a vinyl insert strip is extremely problematic based on my experience with the Born Free

The conventional seam design design which is described above holds water in the channel and under the vinyl insert. This water penetrates around the screws, rots the wood and rusts the screws to the extent that they are impossible to remove and replace in many cases. Workshop has posted many pictures, some in threads other than the more recent one mentioned above, which illustrate the same problems I have experienced with my Born Free.

I am sincerely hoping that Excel has made improvements to this design.
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