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06-18-2017, 10:59 AM
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2016 Thor Outlaw 38RE Slide Motor issue maybe
Ok after several trips after buying this used MH there seems to be a rattle in the wall above my head. When driving down the bumpy terrain it sounds like something is rolling around in the wall. The wife says she can see the slide moving at the top,I am thinking made the slide Motor has come loose maybe , The slide operates just fine havent had any issue extending or bringing in the front slide... I see plate screwed on the wall by the 2 upper tracks on the slide, Can I unscrew it with out causing any issues to investigate the sound? Dont want to create an issue by looking for myself.
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06-19-2017, 11:30 AM
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Since a whole day has gone by without a reply, I will throw out some points despite not having the Schiwintek slide drive ourselves.
1. The panel mentioned should be able to be accessed without problem. Don't know why there is a panel in the slide box, but it is there for something. If it is on the exterior of the slide box, be sure to reseal it afterward.
2. Doubt the panel has anything to do with the slide drive. That entire system mechanicals are outside the slide box (slide box exterior [tracs] and RV wall adjacent to the slide box [drive motor, gear set and drive shaft])
3. A lose item heard rolling around inside any wall could be a piece of "slag" from the house frame welding process. This will be near impossible to access - sorry.
4. If the slide drive motor is lose, it should be secured ASAP. The motor of the Schwintek has only 1 screw holding it in place. That is how manual/emergency slide movement is done.
See Minute 2:30 here:
or Minute 1:40 here:
Best luck
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06-19-2017, 08:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarab0088
Since a whole day has gone by without a reply, I will throw out some points despite not having the Schiwintek slide drive ourselves.
1. The panel mentioned should be able to be accessed without problem. Don't know why there is a panel in the slide box, but it is there for something. If it is on the exterior of the slide box, be sure to reseal it afterward.
I worded that wrong it is actually on the wall next to the track on the slide actually looks as if its holding the rubber seal the slide seals against.
2. Doubt the panel has anything to do with the slide drive. That entire system mechanicals are outside the slide box (slide box exterior [tracs] and RV wall adjacent to the slide box [drive motor, gear set and drive shaft])
Yes they are as you describe
3. A lose item heard rolling around inside any wall could be a piece of "slag" from the house frame welding process. This will be near impossible to access - sorry.
Thats a possibilty
4. If the slide drive motor is lose, it should be secured ASAP. The motor of the Schwintek has only 1 screw holding it in place. That is how manual/emergency slide movement is done.
See Minute 2:30 here:
or Minute 1:40 here:
Best luck
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I seen these 2 videos yesterday and I do see the screws that secure the motor on the outside in the seal, I didnt try and pull the screw out yesterday may try tomorrow and make sure it didnt break off, It just sounds like something is loose and bouncing off the inside of the wall when we hit some bumpy roads and I agree if its the motor I need to get it fixed ASAP.
I even looked at the motors on the drop down bed and they seem secure also. A broken screw might be the only thing I can check for now
Thanks again Scarab
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06-20-2017, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PCarillon
I seen these 2 videos yesterday and I do see the screws that secure the motor on the outside in the seal, I didnt try and pull the screw out yesterday may try tomorrow and make sure it didnt break off, It just sounds like something is loose and bouncing off the inside of the wall when we hit some bumpy roads and I agree if its the motor I need to get it fixed ASAP.
I even looked at the motors on the drop down bed and they seem secure also. A broken screw might be the only thing I can check for now
Thanks again Scarab
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Just finished fixing my slide myself (Ace 30.2 full wall slide). I had a shop fix it before took him almost 3 months and it only lasted 4 cycles of the slide. Where I was going with this is he didn't put the screw back in the h-column which holds the motor in place. Went camping a few times on some bumpy roads motor didn't move. When I fixed the rear rails I noticed there wasn't a screw in the rear motor. It had been like that since day 1. It now has over 8000 miles on it with out the motors falling out. These motors are extremely high torque 300.1 and 500.1 on the bigger slides so I can't see how they just pop out. If your slide works after you drive and hear the noise it's got to be almost impossible for the motor to fall right back in place That's just my opinion after rebuilding both ends of my slide.
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06-24-2017, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace30.2
Just finished fixing my slide myself (Ace 30.2 full wall slide). I had a shop fix it before took him almost 3 months and it only lasted 4 cycles of the slide. Where I was going with this is he didn't put the screw back in the h-column which holds the motor in place. Went camping a few times on some bumpy roads motor didn't move. When I fixed the rear rails I noticed there wasn't a screw in the rear motor. It had been like that since day 1. It now has over 8000 miles on it with out the motors falling out. These motors are extremely high torque 300.1 and 500.1 on the bigger slides so I can't see how they just pop out. If your slide works after you drive and hear the noise it's got to be almost impossible for the motor to fall right back in place That's just my opinion after rebuilding both ends of my slide.
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I agree. Mine came from the factory without the set screw and the motor eventually popped out or place. Once when it was partially out the slide was VERY SLOW, so this would be an indication that the slide motor is popping out of place.
Mine sometimes makes little 'popping' or thunking sounds when hitting bumps. We haven't noticed any movement or anything, so I try not to worry about it. Considering Schwintek reliability I wouldn't be too surprised to have another issue with the slide at some point. I heard one guy was so irritated by the sound that he took apart the shelves or something. He found a screwdriver in one of the spaces!
Best of luck!
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06-25-2017, 08:26 AM
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Thanks might look into it more today will check that lock screw isnt broke.
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06-25-2017, 12:45 PM
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well they ran the screw through the metal strip holding the outside rubber against the slide wall. Should the screw tighten up that goes in the motor because this one is stripped doesnt tighten down.
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