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Old 01-30-2020, 08:15 AM   #1
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Does 40K justify lower THOR quality

We love the Gemini, small footprint but a huge slide opens it up. I can get a 2020 on the new Mercedes chassis for around 82k. The Winny Navion/View is around 120K. Now Thor's QC issues have been well documented but I think I am willing to live with some of them to save 40 Thousand dollars!! Loose screws, loose cabinet doors, loose pull shades, even adding zip ties to wires doesn't scare me. I am kind of handy. I just can't get over the 40K difference. Is it worth it to get a better built MH. Thor uses Schwintek and other components the Winny uses. Help me to understand why I should spend the extra 40K. Could use the 40K to buy a super nice toad!

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Old 01-30-2020, 08:35 AM   #2
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We bought a class A 3 years ago. Had the same internal conversation as you. For us it was between a Coachmen, and a Tiffin. We bought the Coachmen, and what a mistake, that POS fell apart around me. You see it's not just loose cabinets and screws that you can see. Its poor design, corners cut where you can see them. As an example the slide on my coachmen, as well as other coachmens were too heavy and too large for the slide mechanism, causing they to fall into the floor causing a huge issue to fix. The Tiffin for smaller slides give you a hydraulic slide system, with significantly beefier support system. The cabinets in the tiffin are real wood, vs the wood grain stickers in the coachmen that after 2 seasons peeled off and looked terrible. You can see by my signature that we traded in and fixed the problem at a significant loss. There is a difference in the two, you might not be able to see it now, but its there. If you are trying to hit a price point used a year or two old is probably a better option. I'd vote to get the View and dont make the same mistake I did. Thor's are pretty crappy overall from all reports.
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That’s a great price compared to MSRP for the Thor. The lowest priced Gemini RUV I saw on the Thor site was about $115k. If it were me, I’d focus on floor plan, available and useable space for the things you want to take with you. In my small class a, I have lots of exterior storage doors, but many of them are not useable as storage as they have systems in them. Are the water and holding tanks sufficient for your use? Are you going to be in the RUV a lot? Seems a bit too cozy for me.
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Yes, buying a Tiffin 34 will certainly fix the problems!! Nice acquisition !
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Dont look at it as 40k, look at the %. Same as in the auto msrket.

I have owned both a Thor built Damon and a Winnebago and to me the extra cost is worth it.
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:45 AM   #6
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My Winnebago fell apart around me too.


Save the $$
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imho, THOR means less quality
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You get what you pay for. Nothing is free. All manufacturers use third party products. Price point gives you the product.

Save money on the purchase and you may have to do a bit more proactive maintenance but it may be worth it. Very few care what you are driving when you are sitting around a campfire. If they do you have to find a better campfire.
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Get the best you can afford. If you can't afford it, do the best you can with what you have to spend. I am with the folks who say to buy an older RV with higher quality build. The well-built coaches age well. Some new ones, very poorly.
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$40K is way more than just quality control. You will begetting $40K less quality as well. If your budget dictates $40K less, look for a higher quality used unit. You will be money ahead in the long run.

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Not that long ago I was at the Thor factory service center. While there I took a tour of the Newmar factory which is very close by. While waiting for the tour to start a lot of the Newmar owners in the room were also there having their coaches worked on at the Newmar service center.
The conversations between Newmar owners sounded exactly like the conversations of the folks at the Thor service center. Same type of issues the Thor folks were having.
Thor makes more RV's that anyone else on the planet. One reason they cost less is the more you make something the less expensive each unit costs.
If you think you are going to buy any brand of RV and not have any issues your in for a rude surprise.
As to fit finish and attention to detail in construction you get what you pay for. Pay attention to the fact that all manufacturers have different levels of features and different levels of coaches in their product lines.
I find there is quite a bit of unjustified snobbery on the part of some manufactures owners.
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I believe if one were able to look at failure rates the data would show about the same percentage across manufacturers.
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I believe if one were able to look at failure rates the data would show about the same percentage across manufacturers.


Does anyone know what quality 2004 Damon Intruder 373 37 ft 3 slides thanks grampa
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I believe if one were able to look at failure rates the data would show about the same percentage across manufacturers.
EgggZactly!! Save the $40K
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