So....school me on these Thors with the garage

[BeachDude]

Originally Posted by Johnnypac

.... I think paying over 100,000..dollars should get you a basic quality RV that does not need any repair....

If you paid $100,000, the reality is that less than 35% of what you paid, actually goes directly into the assembly and manufacturing of the coach, (where quality can and is normally controlled). That's about $35,000 or about the price of a common mid-size car. That only really allows for process controlled quality, fully dependent on the worker at every assembly operation. There really are not any roving dedicated in-process inspectors, or final dedicated inspection. It's called "employee empowerment", and eliminates a dedicated Quality Department by holding every single employee accountable, (but it also obviously diffuses the accountability).

This is not just at Thor, but virtually every single RV manufacturer. Those manufacturer's that still have an actual Quality Department, only perform sampling inspection. If your coach was one of the lucky samples picked, it's more likely to leave the plant with many less defects.

The other 65% of what you paid for went directly to the dealer's margin and overhead, and the manufacturer's margin and overhead.

[Excursion 33]

Originally Posted by BeachDude

If you paid $100,000, the reality is that less than 35% of what you paid, actually goes directly into the assembly and manufacturing of the coach, (where quality can and is normally controlled). That's about $35,000 or about the price of a common mid-size car. That only really allows for process controlled quality, fully dependent on the worker at every assembly operation. There really are not any roving dedicated in-process inspectors, or final dedicated inspection. It's called "employee empowerment", and eliminates a dedicated Quality Department by holding every single employee accountable, (but it also obviously diffuses the accountability).

This is not just at Thor, but virtually every single RV manufacturer. Those manufacturer's that still have an actual Quality Department, only perform sampling inspection. If your coach was one of the lucky samples picked, it's more likely to leave the plant with many less defects.

The other 65% of what you paid for went directly to the dealer's margin and overhead, and the manufacturer's margin and overhead.

So......How do we go about trying to get one of those sampled coaches....lol

[cb1000rider]

You're used to a diesel pusher. Ever driven a gas Class-C (or Class-A). They're louder, hotter, and typically drive about like Uhaul-truck. Personally, I'd just get an enclosed trailer and be done with it...

[Excursion 33]

Originally Posted by cb1000rider

You're used to a diesel pusher. Ever driven a gas Class-C (or Class-A). They're louder, hotter, and typically drive about like Uhaul-truck. Personally, I'd just get an enclosed trailer and be done with it...

No.....trailers, TH and then straight to a Class A diesel.

[JeffAZ]

Originally Posted by Johnnypac

We have much experience with Outlaw toy haulers. We bought in Oct a 2015 37LS.
Being 37 foot long the garage takes up 10 ft of that space. add the 4 ft loss at the front dash you basically end up with a coach that has the room of a 23 foot RV. The loft bedroom did add a little and we didn't mind climbing into it.

Johnnypac, this is true, but one of my favorite elements on my OTL is the rear patio deck deployment when camped. This increases the useable length to about 46 feet.

Ex33, you are at about the same point of investigation I was at about 2 1/2 years ago when I decided on the Outlaw. That garage really is a lot more convenient and easier than towing your toys.

[Excursion 33]

Originally Posted by JeffAZ

Johnnypac, this is true, but one of my favorite elements on my OTL is the rear patio deck deployment when camped. This increases the useable length to about 46 feet.

Ex33, you are at about the same point of investigation I was at about 2 1/2 years ago when I decided on the Outlaw. That garage really is a lot more convenient and easier than towing your toys.

I agree. While no rig or boat will ever suit all your needs and you just try to get it as close to what you need "at the time"

[EricGT]

I do love the Outlaw series and would love to have the option to bring a golf cart, atv's along with our Jeep on a trip...that RE edition with the vaulted ceiling, king sized bed, ceiling fan, and separate rear bathroom and kitchen sure does look amazing for tailgating!

[Scarab0088]

Another for the Outlaw.


There is NOTHING like having the garage in the back...that's why I started the http://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/clas...rs-130973.html thread.

The Outlaw is just the original and best selling Class A Toy Hauler, but for buying new, there are the Newmar Canyon Star models to consider too...same chassis and similar appointments, but different floorplans and finishes.

For the day to day ownership, the garage keeps your toys close, clean, and safe on the road...then, at your destination the garage becomes a BIG spare room (IN THE RV - not an out-building, like an enclosed trailer) with climate control and bench/bunks.

We love and use the loft because, unlike the garage/bedroom or a room next to the garage - like in a normal Toy Hauler, it is always accessible, clean, and quiet...and uses none of your valuable interior floor space for a bed.

To say these RV's drive like a U-Haul truck is just WRONG...but that is a piece of the never ending DP vs. Gas RV argument that will never be settled. The reality is that the engine MUST be in front of the RV's axle, so a front engine (or the very rare mid-engine) chassis is required for the garage floor to be nice and flat in back.

Quality has been a sore spot over the last 2 years for some (not all), because ALL the RV maker's are making these units as fast as they can. This is not just a Thor problem. But with more Thor Motorhomes sold than any other brand in North America, there are also going to be more problems (in total). TMC has a VERY good customer service program...the dealers (in contrast) seem to be the bottleneck. This is because they are overwhelmed...just try to get an appointment to diagnose and issue right now.

The Outlaw Class A Toy Hauler is the BEST overall set-up for us...YMMV

Best luck to the OP

[Badlands]

We have a Class C Outlaw and love it, only had minor issues. We are touring the U.S. One day at a time.