Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > POWER TRAIN GARAGE FORUMS > Cummins Engines
Click Here to Login
Register FilesVendors Registry Blogs FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-18-2022, 11:47 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 117
Capped High Pressure Release Valve (fuel)

Cummins ISC8.3 It seems the PO has capped our HPRV and removed the fuel return line.

I have received SPN 157 FMI 0 which says: Injector Metering Rail 1 Pressure - Data Valid But Above Normal Operating Range - Most Severe Level

This has happened driving in the South East this spring. Interestingly, we never experienced it last year driving the rocky mountains. We have experienced low power, hard start, loud engine situation as predicted.

I've ordered a new HPRV and return line and hope to replace and install properly. It does make me wonder about WHY the PO would do this. What was he trying to compensate for? What will happen on our next road trip?

TIA for your thoughts.
__________________
~Eric
2011 Itasca Meridian 40U
dekuiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 05-18-2022, 12:20 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Skip426's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Powell River, B.C.
Posts: 31,442
The high pressure manual relief valve failed frequently when owners put aftermarket tuners into the ECM's systems . The fuel pressure would run high enough to force the valve open and a lot of times it wouldn't close , causing the engine to quit.

The valve is the last line of defense for the electronic injectors as extreme pressure from the pump can split the injector(s) housing and fill the crankcase with diesel .
__________________
99DSDP 3884, Freightliner, XC, CAT 3126B, 300 HP /ALLISON 3060
2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
Skip426 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2022, 12:46 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Skip426's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Powell River, B.C.
Posts: 31,442
A second thought ; I always have them .

Perhaps , because the code did not appear on your trip through the Rockies the tuner is still in place and has recently failed .

These add on tuners basically intercept sensor signals about fuel pressure and reduce them , so the ECM doesn't use the electronic fuel pressure control ; at the high pressure pump; to reduce fuel pressure .
Once the ECM sees a proper signal and fuel pressure at a dangerous level the code is set and you have your power and starting issues .

Find the ECM and look for anything added either between the harness and the ECM or any non factory wires tapped into the harness near the ECM and remove the added device and/or wiring.
__________________
99DSDP 3884, Freightliner, XC, CAT 3126B, 300 HP /ALLISON 3060
2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
Skip426 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2022, 01:10 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Alpine36's Avatar


 
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hoodsport Wa
Posts: 3,131
I believe Skip is on to something. The only time I've heard of someone eliminating the HPRV is when adding a aftermarket tuner. Follow his advice and replace the HPRV and the fuel return line back to stock configuration and go from there. I believe 2010 era ISCs were available up to 380hp. Really, you won't likely miss that tuner.
__________________
2000 Alpine 36 FDS #74058
04 Jeep Wrangler TJ
"On the road to find out..."
Alpine36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2022, 09:47 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 117
Thank you both. If it ever stops raining and dries out here in West Michigan, I'll see what I can find. Basically, I cannot see the ECM from above - I just tried.

If I understand you right, I should remove anything I find plugged into the ECM that is not standard. Is there any thing special I need to know?

Attached is a picture I just took from above. The purple arrow points to the Fuel Pressure Sensor. The green arrow points to what???

Click image for larger version

Name:	RV Tuner.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	234.7 KB
ID:	366712
__________________
~Eric
2011 Itasca Meridian 40U
dekuiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2022, 09:56 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 207
That's the connector to the ECM.
Caliber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2022, 10:05 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Skip426's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Powell River, B.C.
Posts: 31,442
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caliber View Post
That's the connector to the ECM.
That's one of the connectors to the ECM.
Second connector will be just to the left , and there may even be a third .

As shown in this 2007 ISC photo . Please excuse the extra markings ; I haven't figured out how to remove them yet .
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	isc-2007-HPCR.png
Views:	24
Size:	487.6 KB
ID:	366717  
Attached Images
 
__________________
99DSDP 3884, Freightliner, XC, CAT 3126B, 300 HP /ALLISON 3060
2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
Skip426 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2022, 10:41 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 117
Looks like there will be 3...

So not seeing a tuner on this one then?

Click image for larger version

Name:	ECM Wiring.png
Views:	35
Size:	301.4 KB
ID:	366720
__________________
~Eric
2011 Itasca Meridian 40U
dekuiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
fuel, valve



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2021 Winnebago View - Traffic Sign Assist "capped" and how to activate Mercedes Pro Robhobart Sprinter Chassis Forum 1 11-10-2020 06:55 PM
RV and trailer capped at 65' vett Newmar Owner's Forum 31 02-23-2017 07:18 AM
weird, i capped the aav, still smell under the kitchen sink CountryFit Class A Motorhome Discussions 4 07-14-2016 09:11 AM
Walmart Spin Off. Handy capped parking Wire Wrat Travel Trailer Discussion 20 05-05-2012 08:20 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.