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Old 08-01-2020, 01:27 PM   #1
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Cummins. ISM 500 Oil Pan Drain Plug Stripped

Hello, Anyone else run into this I have a Cummins ISM 500 HP. Took It to Cummins shop for maintenance & service. When they unscrewed the steel drain plug out, it pulled all the threads out of aluminum oil pan. New pan is $1,800 and 4 hours labor to change plus gaskets or around $2,475.00 When I looked online seems itís not that uncommon. Got unit home and looking at few different options. Just curious how wide spread this is.
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Old 08-01-2020, 01:46 PM   #3
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A common issue with those aluminum pans.


There ARE kits that fix that without removing or replacing the pan.


Just do a search for: stripped drain plug Cummins ISM.
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Cummins drain plug inserts part number 68749 ($49), drain plug part number 3055069 ($10.80) and brass washer part number 67946 ($2.90) was purchased. Drain hole drilled/reamed out to 1-1/4″ and NPT tapped, insert installed with Loctite and now there is a new steel hole to accept a steel drain plug.
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Cummins drain plug inserts part number 68749 ($49), drain plug part number 3055069 ($10.80) and brass washer part number 67946 ($2.90) was purchased. Drain hole drilled/reamed out to 1-1/4″ and NPT tapped, insert installed with Loctite and now there is a new steel hole to accept a steel drain plug.
Yup, mine is coming due for the insert as well.
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Busnut, Anyone doing this without dropping the pan. If so best way to keep any chips out of pan. Thought about grease on tap and big shop vacuum right On hole while working on it. Thanks again.
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Depending on what you have left of threads, it might be time to consider a drain valve. Drop the oil out, let is sit for a day or two. Clean what is left of the threads with solvents and then epoxy (JB Weld) in the drain valve. Never a problem again.
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I used the tap with grease. But just because I dump a half a gallon of oil in there and let it push out what chips the grease didn't hold on to.
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Hi Jons,

I am sure hoping you did not allow Cummins to fix it. The insert installation would work just fine and for LOTS less $$. Many of the inserts have been used on engines of all types.

Repair shops everywhere are seeking to up charge their customers and it does not seem to inhibit their senses of integrity one bit.



We recently took our Toyota PU to a local dealer (Dick Hannah) and when we stopped to pick it up the service writer had a serious and sad look on his face and said they could not finish the LOF on our pickup. "Your oil pan plug is not the factory Toyota plug, it is a plug made to deal with cross-threaded holes."
This "special" plug was not leaking but they refused to replace it, HOWEVER the guy had already printed out the costs of replacing the oil pan, new plug etc to the tune of $600+ dollars!!

I told the Service manager and his boss, to put in a plug so I could drive it home. That was begrudgingly done.
A replacement lower oil pan (Toyota) was just under $100 dollars and $0 for my labor.

The local Detroit Diesel/Allison dealer tried to rip us off a few years back.......

OP I apologize for side-tracking your thread but if this makes fellow RV owners more vigilant in spotting dealership thieves.........
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Yeah they tried to get a work friend on an oil pan. I told him about repair plug . By some miracle ,when he went to install it it was perfectly fine. Catalytic convertor is big upcharge scam , I got this tick , must be catalytic convertor ,no analysis needed service writer magically just knows.
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On my steel ISM pan, there are several drain holes. Bottom, side. I would put a fumoto drain valve in another hole if the original hole threads are truly buggered up. Drain all oil, epoxy the old plug in the old bad hole.

Or heli coil. Zero need to replace the pan.
Who did the last oil change - same FL dealership? Ask them if they are going to replace the pan free of charge. I bet they suggest the above instead if they are paying the bill...
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My pan is aluminum with a side and bottom plug, side plug is up a few inches. Going to work on it over the weekend, see if any threads are still left, then make a decision which way to go. Won’t be a new pan for sure. If have threads enough to hold anything will use the Cummins adapter or a quick drain.
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