Service question

[Cantiberos31]

I know this subject has been beat to death on this forum but i'm having trouble finding ALL of the Fleetguard filter numbers for my 93 beaver patriot. Has the ISC8.3 mechanical.
Can somebody be of assistance please?
Napa filters are on now and so covered in filth I can't read the numbers with out degreasing (that's another day). I don't have my new manual yet but it's in the mail. Starting the service today before I leave tomorrow night on a short weekend trip. Any help would be great.

I need fleetguard numbers for:
Oil filter
(2)fuel filters
Coolant filter
Allison MD3060 high capacity filter numbers(not fleetguard)
Air filter
Air dryer Filter

Fluids too.
*oil, i'll be refilling with the standard Delo 400 chevron.
*Allison tranny i'll be using the Transynd.
*Coolant, I have no idea. (this subject hurts my head, haha)I'd like to use the long lasting red coolant with as little maintenance needed if possible. I'd rather not test and refill certain chemicals. Just change when the manual calls out for it. Waist of money, probably, just the kind of guy I am for piece of mind.

This would be a great sticky to all ISC forum members as well. I see one up already for the ISL. Thanks in advance guys. I love the knowledge shared here.

[spike45]

Originally Posted by Cantiberos31

I know this subject has been beat to death on this forum but i'm having trouble finding ALL of the Fleetguard filter numbers for my 93 beaver patriot. Has the ISC8.3 mechanical.
Can somebody be of assistance please?
Napa filters are on now and so covered in filth I can't read the numbers with out degreasing (that's another day). I don't have my new manual yet but it's in the mail. Starting the service today before I leave tomorrow night on a short weekend trip. Any help would be great.

I need fleetguard numbers for:
Oil filter
(2)fuel filters
Coolant filter
Allison MD3060 high capacity filter numbers(not fleetguard)
Air filter
Air dryer Filter

Fluids too.
*oil, i'll be refilling with the standard Delo 400 chevron.
*Allison tranny i'll be using the Transynd.
*Coolant, I have no idea. (this subject hurts my head, haha)I'd like to use the long lasting red coolant with as little maintenance needed if possible. I'd rather not test and refill certain chemicals. Just change when the manual calls out for it. Waist of money, probably, just the kind of guy I am for piece of mind.

This would be a great sticky to all ISC forum members as well. I see one up already for the ISL. Thanks in advance guys. I love the knowledge shared here.

I believe your engine is actually a C8.3 not ISC. ISC has electronic engine control for fuel system.

The Fleetguard lube filter is the LF9009.
The standard fuel filter is the FF5052
The Fuel Water Separator is FS1251
Stay away from their plastic fuel filters! (FF42000)
If you want a no fuss coolant, use Old World Final Charge and WF2123 water filter. This is a zero unit filter with no chemical. It is good for up to three years of installed time. Mileage wise, it is good for up to 150,000 miles but not over 3 years.
If you go to Final Charge, you will need to drain your old coolant and water flush to purge all old coolant. This will leave some water in the engine. If you do not know your total system capacity, find out from the coach builder. If you find that the system holds 16 gallons (just an example), you will need 8 gallons of Final Charge Concentrate. Pout that in and fill the rest of the system with water. If you like, use distilled or other demineralized water. Some will tell you that you need to flush with distilled water......BALONEY! More internet myths propagated.

Your air filter is likely a Farr Ecolite. Fleetguard, Baldwin, Donaldson have replacements that are actually made by Farr with their name on the box but not likely on the label. The Ecolite is a disposable housing air filter. You can find posts that I have made on this substandard air filter. Your options for other filters are very limited unless you are up for installing a better air cleaner that has a permanent housing with replaceable elements.

Most any HD truck parts distributor can supply an air system dryer filter cartridge.

[Cantiberos31]

"If you want a no fuss coolant, use Old World Final Charge and WF2123"

"Your air filter is likely a Farr Ecolite. Fleetguard, Baldwin, Donaldson have replacements that are actually made by Farr with their name on the box but not likely on the label. The Ecolite is a disposable housing air filter. You can find posts that I have made on this substandard air filter. Your options for other filters are very limited unless you are up for installing a better air cleaner that has a permanent housing with replaceable elements."

Thanks Gary, i've read a lot of your posts to date. Good info as usual. I have a couple more i forgot to ask. Any idea which serpentine belt is the replacement? And when you say "old world" final charge, I assume that's not the actual name right? What's printed on the bottle?

What would you recommend for an air filter upgrade? I have powerstroke as my daily driver and am amazed at all the aftermarket parts for it. That being said, i'm no stranger to upgrades and install. I am also aware not much is available for this unit.

[spike45]

Originally Posted by Cantiberos31

"If you want a no fuss coolant, use Old World Final Charge and WF2123"

"Your air filter is likely a Farr Ecolite. Fleetguard, Baldwin, Donaldson have replacements that are actually made by Farr with their name on the box but not likely on the label. The Ecolite is a disposable housing air filter. You can find posts that I have made on this substandard air filter. Your options for other filters are very limited unless you are up for installing a better air cleaner that has a permanent housing with replaceable elements."

Thanks Gary, i've read a lot of your posts to date. Good info as usual. I have a couple more i forgot to ask. Any idea which serpentine belt is the replacement? And when you say "old world" final charge, I assume that's not the actual name right? What's printed on the bottle?

What would you recommend for an air filter upgrade? I have Powerstroke as my daily driver and am amazed at all the aftermarket parts for it. That being said, i'm no stranger to upgrades and install. I am also aware not much is available for this unit.

Actually, the name of the manufacturer of Final Charge is Old World Industries of Naperville, IL. They also make a conventional coolant for diesels with nitrite only, Fleet Charge.

Cannot help you on the serpentine belt. My guess is that with the coach or chassis builder they added some accessory to the drive thus needed a different belt than Cummins "may" have supplied.

If you have the room for a replaceable element air filter, I recommend either the Donaldson radial seal in the FRG (?) housing or the Fleetguard OptiAir 1300. You can expect this to not be a simple project but peace of mind re dusting potential when NOT running the Farr Ecolite.

As for the Powerstroke, the temptation is to add a K&N or similar. They do pass more air in the same size package as the original AF but the real cost is that they are not very restrictive on dust thus you are risking dusting more so with these products than the standard paper or combination paper/nano-fiber media. From some testing, I have unofficially heard that the new nano-fiber air filters have a higher initial efficiency but the overall efficiency is no better than paper and at a price premium!