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Old 04-07-2021, 01:21 PM   #1
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Allison 3000 needs rebuild

Allow me to tell a short story. We are in the process of buying a 2009 Fleetwood Expedition 38F. It is in Florida and we live in Utah. We have seen lots of pics and did a video walk-through before we decided on this unit. We also already owned (sold it 2 years ago) the exact same year and model so we are very familiar with this unit. Sellers remorse. The motorhome was to be delivered by the seller this week. He left his home on Monday and made it 60 miles before the trans went into some kind of limp mode (I'm assuming). It would run up to 3rd gear and then it would flash N and not go any further. He towed it to an authorized Allison dealer in Ocala FL and after 2 days they determined it needed to be rebuilt at a minimum or replaced at worst.

The good news is it is still on his dime so to speak, the bad news is I am now concerned because this unit only has 38k on the odometer. He said that he has never serviced the trans but has done annual oil changes on the engine as well as chassis service. I drove ready mix for 18 years and I know these transmissions are almost indestructible if maintained.

He has offered to refund the deposit we put on it should we decide to back out.

Is there any reason for an Allison 3000MH like this to fail other than no fluid? I would think that even a lack of service wouldn't be the end of the world at only 38K. Also, he says that the only thing he has towed is a Suburban four down.

Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this.
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If the coach has been sitting for any length of time , drying and sticking of the internal seals could be the cause of failure .

It would be your choice , as to continue with the purchase ,my question would be , for the Allison shop , if any extended or transfer of warranty on the overhaul is possible .
No sense having an overhauled transmission , if any warranty expires with your purchase; a few hundred miles after completion of the work.
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If my purchase...I would pass it by. I have never serviced my 3000 (not bragging...just fact) and it has 130K miles on it. (I know...it's overdue for service).
Not that I am all knowing...but the 3000 needing rebuilt or replaced just sounds strange. I know it's the coach you want....but there are others.
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My bet would be on at least 50/50 that this is an electronic issue, not mechanical.


Consider subtracting price of new Allison reman 3000 (parts and labor) from your offer and go for it. Worse case you have a zero mile Allison. Best case is that it really is an electronic issue and fewer $$.


What DIAGNOSTIC CODES were found???
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JMHO: If you do decide to get your deposit back ; you'll find the coach listed for sale next month; at a higher price ; as the seller tries to recover the transmission repair coast.
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My bet would be on at least 50/50 that this is an electronic issue, not mechanical.


Consider subtracting price of new Allison reman 3000 (parts and labor) from your offer and go for it. Worse case you have a zero mile Allison. Best case is that it really is an electronic issue and fewer $$.


What DIAGNOSTIC CODES were found???
They wouldn't say what the codes were and there is suspicion that they didn't check them so now it's being taken to another shop. Should know more soon. I agree with you that electrical seems most likely.
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JMHO: If you do decide to get your deposit back ; you'll find the coach listed for sale next month; at a higher price ; as the seller tries to recover the transmission repair coast.
I agree. We are waiting to see what it is and then make the final call on backing out. If it turns out to be a simple electrical issue we will follow through on it.
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Good luck getting to the root of the issue. Mine is in the shop for a (po711) temp sensor code. They are having trouble finding the parts.
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