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Old 07-27-2016, 06:03 PM   #1
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So sad, motor junk

Our recent foray into rv lifestyle is that on our return from a 3 day journey, our newly acquired 95 Winnie Brave 23 6.5 diesel turbo with 87k broke something bad. No not Duramax
The repair shop now 100 mi from home advised to not repair. The cost for a new engine being very expensive A rebuilt long block is probably the most wise.
The coach is in excellent condition and all parts of house works fine. We have already invested in tires, a/c repairs ,and brake work . The size works for us.
The repair costs may well equal the initial investment.
The ? is would it be feasible to update powertrain as long as we are doing it?

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Old 07-27-2016, 06:11 PM   #2
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Almost anything other than a direct replacement will be very expensive. Sorry for your loss, it would make me sick.

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Old 07-27-2016, 06:35 PM   #3
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That question is above my pay grade. IF it is feasible, a late-model Duramax engine would be great. Locating such a used Duramax in good condition might be difficult , perhaps a Jasper rebuilt Duramax? Another thought; buying an older, complete GM pickup with a Duramax/Allison combination and transferring both to your MH, may even be more feasible.
Since new or rebuild diesel engince are expensive, that may be the better choice.
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:18 PM   #4
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Bummer! What is the shop quoting for that block replacement?

I do like Ray's suggestion of finding a complete (perhaps with body damage only) newer GM pickup with the Duramax / Allison, however it will not be easy and if you are paying someone else to do the work it will likely be more expensive than just replacing with a rebuilt 6.5. The reason being is they will need to install the computer(s) from the newer rig to be able to control the Duramax & Allison and also integrate into the existing systems that are still needed for gauges, cruise, lighting, etc. It would all be very custom and time consuming ($$$$).
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:27 PM   #5
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Update is first shop just said he didn't want the job and to sink it in lake Michigan. Nice guy , 2nd shop said get me a motor and I can cut the old one out and get you back on the road for $$$$ . No help on where to access motor . What happened to service these days. (Part broke, get part, fix and go.)
Rv shops only work on the house ,not chassis.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:47 PM   #6
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I sense that your chassis and drive train are Ford. Go to a Ford truck shop. They should be able to do the work. If it is a GM, go to a GM shop. Good luck!
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If you can figure a way around the 6.5 GM diesel it will be $ well spent.That engine is a dog, ( i had one in a dooley for 150,000 miles). The dura max is a much better engine (I have a 06 Dooley still going strong at 150,000) The problem is the 6.5 and the 6.6 duramax engine have NOTHING in common. The 6.5 is a reworked GM engine and the Dura max is an iszua engine. I really can't help you with a way to go but if you know the difference it might help the desion making. If there is anyway possible make the 6.5 engine a boat anchor.
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Try Kennedy Diesel in Loyal Wisconsin, he may be able to help with a reman engine

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Old 08-28-2016, 09:29 AM   #9
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After looking at your profile it appears the only diesel option for the 23 ft. model was the Chevrolet 6.5 liter diesel.


I would definitely replace it with an original engine. Upgrading would entail replacing all the electronic engine controls as well. I don't think that would be cost effective for a 22 year old motorhome.
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Old 08-28-2016, 10:02 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by SS396CV View Post
Try Kennedy Diesel in Loyal Wisconsin, he may be able to help with a reman engine

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The 6.5 diesel is not a strong engine, but if you have it in your RV and plan to keep the RV, then a 6.5 rebuilt from a vendor that knows the 6.5 is your best bet. There are experts out there that can make it reliable. I know of a couple of 6.5s that run strong, because the owners have done a few upgrades.

Because they are not highly desirable, vendors such a Kennedy should be able to help locate a reman short or long block to fit your needs, for a reasonable price. Talk to them, not the RV shop.

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Old 09-21-2016, 08:20 PM   #11
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same engine used in the Hummer. I think the engine is still being produced for it. In any case, Banks knows a lot about these engines and how to build a reliable one.

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I had the GM 6.5 diesel in 1995 Safari Trek. I had well over 100k miles when sold. There are a few folks out there very knowing and specialize in them.

Can you share more details of your problem? What happened that requires a engine replacement?

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OP hasn't logged in for about six weeks. Made the two posts above and vaporized...

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Old 09-21-2016, 11:13 PM   #14
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Just a quick heads up if O.P. does retturn; check Visone rv salvage. They have a lot of salvage rvs and motors that have already been pulled. AND THEY SHIP AS WELL AS PICKUP! Mite be worth a look.

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