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Ziggy8321 · 03-27-2019, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by deputybubba

So Ziggy
Will you just mount the sea level near the original guage?
Interested to see your install...
Thanks
Bruce

Bruce, since the only thing I will be replacing is the tank display and push buttons, I *MIGHT* be able to cut the faceplate Renegade provides. Without taking that cluster out (again), it looks like there are 4 screws that hold the electronics to the display. I haven't measured, but my uncalibrated eyeball believes the Sea Level display will fit the same place after I cut a hole after removing the original electronics.

I'll take a picture of where I *believe* the Sea Level will mount and look factory installed.

Going to take a pic now, will upload shortly.

Ziggy8321 · 03-27-2019, 02:00 PM

Here are the pix of the display panel I currently have and the area circled in red is where I believe the new display will fit/attach once I remove the current electronics from the back (also circled in red).

Ziggy8321 · 03-27-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by deputybubba

There is a aluminum frame directly under the mattress... Lift that the entire bottom half of the mattress will rise with it... Grab it on a corner so you don't smash your fingers when you let it down

What deputybubba failed to mention is that the bed with mattress on is *quite* heavy.

deputybubba · 03-27-2019, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziggy8321

What deputybubba failed to mention is that the bed with mattress on is *quite* heavy.

True

RonLC · 03-27-2019, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziggy8321

Here are the pix of the display panel I currently have and the area circled in red is where I believe the new display will fit/attach once I remove the current electronics from the back (also circled in red).

Ah ha! Is this the button that has to be pushed to read tank levels? I have had this kind before but not on the Verona LE. Mine is like Post #1...a Firefly.

I think the FB poster may have a Valencia or smaller Verona and the panel looks like yours.

deputybubba · 03-27-2019, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziggy8321

Here are the pix of the display panel I currently have and the area circled in red is where I believe the new display will fit/attach once I remove the current electronics from the back (also circled in red).

Thanks for the pics
Just like my panel.. Please contune to update

Ziggy8321 · 03-27-2019, 03:30 PM

RonLC,

You may be screwed. You have multiplex wiring rather than point to point which is 2018 and some 17 and older.

With multiplex wiring, you need something (sensors) that can talk to the CanBus (I believe).

I haven't checked but someone else mentioned a Sea Level marine blue tooth version (wireless) that "should" work for you and just ignore the Firefly readings. BUT, if you're under warranty, make them fix it

RonLC · 03-28-2019, 02:23 PM

This is my Firefly display and my senders, i think, are the wires tapped into the tank. I wonder if the wires go directly to the Firefly or if there is a junction box somewhere in the system?

tdeperte · 03-29-2019, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RonLC

This is my Firefly display and my senders, i think, are the wires tapped into the tank. I wonder if the wires go directly to the Firefly or if there is a junction box somewhere in the system?

The tank wires go to the Firefly controller which is located behind your 12 volt and 120 volt panels. It is attached to the wall.

tdeperte · 03-29-2019, 09:22 AM

If you have the Firefly system you will not be able to use SeeLevel sensors with this system. If you have the old style monitor where the sensor wires go directly to the monitor or display then the SeeLevel sensors will work. The Firefly system can be updated by Firefly to work with SeeLevel sensors for about $1100. It is a very proprietary system.

RonLC · 03-30-2019, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tdeperte

If you have the Firefly system you will not be able to use SeeLevel sensors with this system.

I just want what I have to work. I have never considered SeaLevel sensors. But, it is too bad that Centroid sensors probably cannot be used either. They are the easiest to work with and most accurate sensors I have used on my boats,

dcgettinby · 03-31-2019, 06:57 AM

I know exactly what you mean when you say "I just want what I have to work"! I'll bet the ranch many people feel the same, and that sentiment is not limited to tank level sensors.

With respect to level sensors, however, the industry "standard" is a system using 4 posts protruding into each tank. If I understand correctly, that system is still being used on production Renegades (i.e., Verona/Valencia/etc). Please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

Assuming your Verona has the 4 probe tank level system, you probably know that relatively few of these systems "work"; at least, not for very long. The probes are subject to fouling, particularly in gray and black tanks. Once fouling begins, "working" begins to suffer. There are products (and home remedies) to try to keep the probes clean and "working", but I've had limited success with any of these in the longer term.

SeeLevel systems are not perfect either, but they do have the advantage that they are entirely external to the tank. Fouling cannot occur and "junk" inside the tank itself does not interfere with level readings. It sounds like SeeLevel systems will not interface correctly with the Firefly system which is unfortunate, but SeeLevel-specific monitors could be used (for those interested) independently of Firefly.

In your case, I definitely believe you should take full advantage of your warranty and get it repaired. The situation is obviously different for those no longer covered by warranties.