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Old 04-30-2020, 11:31 AM   #1
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Super C cost?

We recently sold our Tiffin 33AA and are considering a Super C. Due to issues with my hands I can no longer drive for very long. My wife test drove a Senica and loved driving it. She was never comfortable driving our previous two class A's. Thus, a Super C is in our future. We like the Entergra Accolade but at 13.4 feet tall it won't fit in our 13.4 RV garage. We have read good reviews of the Renegade line of Super C's and are interested in either the Valencia or the Verona. Any comments or suggestions about either would be appreciated.

However, what I'm really having problems with is the pricing of the coaches. Normally, on a class A pusher 25-30% off MSRP is a realistic purchase price. It seems from looking at dealer prices on line for Renegade's, 10% off is what a dealer thinks is a good sale price. Are Super C's just discounted less? We live in the Dallas/FT. Worth area. Any guidance you could offer would again be appreciated.

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We love the Super C's for their superior build and normally heavy duty chassis. They are very stable on the road but, less maneuverable in tight situations. Other than that, we can't think of a down side.
Now, on price, you get what you pay for. I would stay away from the low end versions, they are built just as cheaply as the low end A's. We have owned (2) of them, bought the first one from an individual and the second from a dealer. Both were one owner, garage kept and higher end brands. We paid about 1/3 of new. The first was 5 years old with 14,000 miles. Of course we did some upgrades but never had any major issues in 5 years of ownership. We bought the second 1 1/2 years ago. Only reason for the purchase was so we could travel with a total of 7. We have made the normal upgrades, tires, TV's, sound system, sat and OTA. The coach had 30,000 miles when we got it, looks and drives just like new. We paid less than 1/3 of new leaving us with plenty for upgrades and any repairs.
No mater if you buy new or used, there should be some fantastic deals given the current situation.
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Thanks for the information. Do you have a manufacturer you could recommend? Renegade is on the top of our list. Probably the Verona but maybe the Valencia.
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I have always admired the Renegade brand however, some of their new lower cost versions are not built to the quality they used to have. Since you are already a motorhome owner you probably know what to look for.
Used brands that I like: Showhauler, Optima, Pre 2010 Dynamax, Renegade and NRC.
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Thanks. We liked the Dynamax but since Forest River’s takeover quality has gone way down. We’re going to try and stay with 2018 or later. Maybe the Verona would be a better choice than the Valencia. Anyway I believe a Super C will be better handling than our previous class A. Thanks again.
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We are very happy with our Renegade. I would bet that some dealers will "deal" in this economy. As far as where to buy if I were to start over my choice would be IWS in Mt. Home, ID. They usually have several in stock. After the sale service is very important as you will find out. IWS treated us like royalty when we went there for some work. We bought new at North Trail in Ft. Myers. The sales part of the deal was very satisfactory but the warranty service hassle was a miserable experience. I will never darken their door again for any thing.

A late model Verona or Valencia should not be too hard to find and I would not be afraid of it. They are well built units and drive like they are on rails.


Most of the Renegade conversation is two bumps above this forum in Truck Conversions.
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I have always admired the Renegade brand however, some of their new lower cost versions are not built to the quality they used to have.
I assume you are alluding to the Valencia. Could you please expand on the lower quality issues that you saw? I'm considering a Valencia so whatever you have to say I'd appreciate.
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Remember this is just my opinion.
Valencia, first impression when you walk on board is that it is nicely appointed and very spacious. The outside looks nice and seems well done.
Digging to the bones, the chassis is light for the load, 31,000 GVW. The engine is on the small side and will most likely struggle in mountains or towing a significant load. I do like the tank sizes, 100 fuel, 150 water and 75 black and grey = 3,200lbs if full would really limit your useful load.
Where they saved money, furniture, floor and wall coverings, heating system, water heating and other woodwork. Don't be fooled by entertainment systems, this stuff is cheap nowdays.
I think the Valencia would be great for the occasional weekend use but I think it would frustrate a full timer quickly.
We had a similar size and powered (Dynamax Grand Sport 380) and our experience drove us to the current coach.
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Seems like your close enough to MHSRV to check their pricing and models. No Renegade models though.
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Wasn't impressed by MHSRV when I went to look at units.. True, they dont have Renegade, and what they do have almost seems to be "B" stock.. Fit and finish on three Dynamax's we went through was not good at all.

We will gladly drive to Idaho for superior service and support.
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I have always admired the Renegade brand however, some of their new lower cost versions are not built to the quality they used to have. Since you are already a motorhome owner you probably know what to look for.
Used brands that I like: Showhauler, Optima, Pre 2010 Dynamax, Renegade and NRC.
Curious why pre-2010 on Dynamax as Forest River had not purchased them until I believe 2013? We love the older ones for sure though! Also, what or the lower end Renegades? We are also looking at the Verona's
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we are going to look a a well cared for Dynamax Force 35 this week. It has 46,000 miles and has been stored indoors. The seller said that although some issues when new zero problems in the last 3 years. Those with experience- what are the typical quality issues? It is a 2016. This is our first motorhome coming from 25 years of 42 foot boat.
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Ordered in Dec. but not yet received a Nexus Rebel 30R. Looked at the Dynamax Isata 5 but getting in and especially out of the PS seat and into the coach was just about impossible to do gracefully. The term contortionist comes to mind. We got about 25% off MSRP on the Nexus.
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Curious why pre-2010 on Dynamax as Forest River had not purchased them until I believe 2013? We love the older ones for sure though! Also, what or the lower end Renegades? We are also looking at the Verona's
I'm not a fan of the Valencia mostly due to the chassis. Renegade made a real effort to minimize cost on this model. I like all other models especially the Classic, Ikon and XL.
After 2008 Dynamax had a lot of hidden quality issues. After Forest River took over they became just like the rest of their products.
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