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[Captain8]

Originally Posted by Mandalayman

Most 50 amp RVs can be powered to operate on 30 amp power but limited use of appliances/electronics. But how will a Prevost do if you hook up to a 30 amp power ? With their electrical display panel being different will it only power part of it ? Or do you have to connect only to 50 amp power ? Just curious should any Prevost owners have done this. Future Prevost bus owner !!!

You can get a 30 to 50 adapter which will let you run everything but 30a is 120v (3600w) and 50a is 240v (12000w) so huge difference. It'll run but if you turn mor then 1 big items you'll likely blow the fuse.

I use Victron inverters which allows me to run as low as 13a 120v so I can plug in using any outlet. It'll then use battery to boost up to 10kw (I have two 5kw inverters). This means I can get like 80a/240 (20kw) when hooked up to shore. Its an amazing feature

[m0v1]

Howdy, everyone. This thread got me to switch from long-time lurker to poster...

Originally Posted by Mark3101

You have not YET had issues with getting the DD60 worked on. Great, but some parts are getting scarce for them, and when things that fail or need regular replacement stop being available, you will have issues...

...but I would blow you off the road any day, any time. I have had 3 Provost's (2 Detroit 60's and 1 Volvo D13) and not one would pull hills and plow through wind like the X-15 Cummins at 605 HP. I go up hills all the time 15 to 30 MPH faster

I would genuinely like to know what parts you think are getting scarce for the Series 60.

I would also love the opportunity to compare the performance of a modern X15 powered coach to my old steel bodied money pit. If anyone is game, I know the perfect local mountain grade to give it a whirl. I will bring a drone pilot and videographer so we can make a fun video about it to share. I will warn you that I have been doing a little bit of work on it, but that is what makes me so curious.

[m0v1]

Originally Posted by Mark3101

The DD60 is a dead product...

Go ahead and buy a 30 to 40 year old Prevost if you want, but don't try to convince people it is a good buy. It isn't from any perspective...

I will have a currently supported product that is up to date, not old and obsolete. I will be able to get parts and service, and not trying to find some shade tree guy that can maybe cobble something partially back together after a month or more of looking for take offs or junk. The is not for me, and not for anyone I know either.

Enjoy your coach. Hope you can get the parts you will need going forward.

Feel free to bang your head against the wall or tree some more if it makes you feel better

Sounds like you had some tough times with bus ownership. It is a shame you feel so compelled to broadly paint the rest of the world with your own harrowed times.

Some of us out there are our own factory support. Not just for buses, but a wide array of machines. We live on a different plane of existence than you and have the knowledge, skills, tools, friends, and energy to completely defy what you are claiming as the reality for everyone.

The 30 and 40 year old Prevosts, Wanderlodges, and Newells are a great buy for those that know how to get things done. To the self-selecting crowd of owner-operator-wrenchers, don't listen to him as he knows not his own ignorance.

[d23haynes57]

Originally Posted by m0v1

Sounds like you had some tough times with bus ownership. It is a shame you feel so compelled to broadly paint the rest of the world with your own harrowed times.

Some of us out there are our own factory support. Not just for buses, but a wide array of machines. We live on a different plane of existence than you and have the knowledge, skills, tools, friends, and energy to completely defy what you are claiming as the reality for everyone.

The 30 and 40 year old Prevosts, Wanderlodges, and Newells are a great buy for those that know how to get things done. To the self-selecting crowd of owner-operator-wrenchers, don't listen to him as he knows not his own ignorance.

I am a fan of collector vehicles and see a value of keeping classics on the road and helping others enjoy them. Sometimes though as I embark on a trip I sometimes enjoy the thought of reaching my destination is an expectation instead of an accomplishment.
That said, keeping an old rig going requires a different level of maintenance, capability, and awareness. It can also be a wonderful form of accomplishment. But it is not for everyone.
These days the new stuff is not a guarantee of success either.

[m0v1]

Originally Posted by d23haynes57

I am a fan of collector vehicles and see a value of keeping classics on the road and helping others enjoy them. Sometimes though as I embark on a trip I sometimes enjoy the thought of reaching my destination is an expectation instead of an accomplishment.
That said, keeping an old rig going requires a different level of maintenance, capability, and awareness. It can also be a wonderful form of accomplishment. But it is not for everyone.

It is definitely not for everyone, but it was stated several times as a fact that it is a bad decision for all. I am here to say that is unequivocally wrong.

We average 20k+ miles per year. Getting to the destination is never a concern. In the past 3 years, we have been slowed down two times by Allison transmission sensors that failed. One time for a day and a half while I sorted it out, the other time for about 3 hours while I sourced a new sensor.

These days the new stuff is not a guarantee of success either.

100%

Too many electronics and too many corners are cut for cost efficiency and production speed.

We have a Volvo that is under factory warranty and has been in the shop for the past 5 weeks because no one at the dealer can figure out why the computer is malfunctioning.

[d23haynes57]

Originally Posted by m0v1

It is definitely not for everyone, but it was stated several times as a fact that it is a bad decision for all. I am here to say that is unequivocally wrong.

We average 20k+ miles per year. Getting to the destination is never a concern. In the past 3 years, we have been slowed down two times by Allison transmission sensors that failed. One time for a day and a half while I sorted it out, the other time for about 3 hours while I sourced a new sensor.



100%

Too many electronics and too many corners are cut for cost efficiency and production speed.

We have a Volvo that is under factory warranty and has been in the shop for the past 5 weeks because no one at the dealer can figure out why the computer is malfunctioning.

And then there are threads like this one.
https://www.irv2.com/forums/f112/eng...ml#post6989837
Older stuff has some challenges and again not for everybody.

[Captain8]

Originally Posted by m0v1

Sounds like you had some tough times with bus ownership. It is a shame you feel so compelled to broadly paint the rest of the world with your own harrowed times.

Some of us out there are our own factory support. Not just for buses, but a wide array of machines. We live on a different plane of existence than you and have the knowledge, skills, tools, friends, and energy to completely defy what you are claiming as the reality for everyone.

The 30 and 40 year old Prevosts, Wanderlodges, and Newells are a great buy for those that know how to get things done. To the self-selecting crowd of owner-operator-wrenchers, don't listen to him as he knows not his own ignorance.

You're spot on. The series 60 is going to have tons of parts for decades and even then they'll have used parts just like everything else. Its a commercial motor and isn't going to be an issue.

With a quality coach like Prevost the age doesn't matter as it's designed to last forever. Its all about maintenance and taking decent care of it. This is unlike cheaper RVs that are designed to fall apart. The difference is we're using all the parts and devices for their full life. Sure you'll need to replace ACs and parts every 10 years or so but not really an issue.

[Captain8]

Originally Posted by m0v1

Sounds like you had some tough times with bus ownership. It is a shame you feel so compelled to broadly paint the rest of the world with your own harrowed times.

Some of us out there are our own factory support. Not just for buses, but a wide array of machines. We live on a different plane of existence than you and have the knowledge, skills, tools, friends, and energy to completely defy what you are claiming as the reality for everyone.

The 30 and 40 year old Prevosts, Wanderlodges, and Newells are a great buy for those that know how to get things done. To the self-selecting crowd of owner-operator-wrenchers, don't listen to him as he knows not his own ignorance.

You're spot on. The series 60 is going to have tons of parts for decades and even then they'll have used parts just like everything else. Its a commercial motor and isn't going to be an issue.

With a quality coach like Prevost the age doesn't matter as it's designed to last forever. Its all about maintenance and taking decent care of it. This is unlike cheaper RVs that are designed to fall apart. The difference is we're using all the parts and devices for their full life. Sure you'll need to replace ACs and parts every 10 years or so but not really an issue.