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Old 08-15-2013, 12:00 AM   #57
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Im new to the forum, my name is Robert, I found this forum when I was researching other semis pulling rv's in the google search engine. I found the thread from the member named VOLVO1026.

My father drives tractor for a living and suggested to me over a year ago when my 5'er outgrew my 99 C3500 by 3000+ pounds, to consider a retired tractor. After a year's research and looking through Trucks for Sale | Freightliner, Kenworth, Peterbilt, new Trucks and used trucks | Commercial Truck Trader I ended up with a 1993 International 9400 Eagle with a 62" sleeper mid May of this year (2013).

It wasn't and still isn't to pretty but it is solid mechanically. It needs body and interior work but when purchased for less than $9000, it will do the job

As i mentioned in my prior thread, it has the Detroit 12.7L series 60 with the Eaton/Fuller 10-speed, everything works to include the three stage jake brake. Other than the cosmetic, the only down side is that it has 1,066,000 miles on it but then again, its doesn't leak and starts every time It had a new clutch and a complete fluid and filter service just before I brought it home. It is a challenge to drive as I am still learning how to drive a un-synchronized manual transmission, my father showed me how to float the gears and have much better luck that way then the double clutching that is recommended by the CDL schools, for some odd reason I have yet to get it to double clutch...

I used it for my first camping trip in it's prior unaltered configuration, with both rear axles and stock hitch. Pulling my 2012 Montana Mountaineer 346LBQ that weighs in at 12840 pounds and 38 ft in length with four (4) slides. Prior to my trip to northern Michigan with it, I gutted the sleeper of its bunks and made interim benches over the side storage compartments and headed off. Kids (teenagers) love riding in it and I have to admit that the truck doesn't even know the camper is on the back, bout the only effect I get when pulling is that it makes the truck ride smoother than bobtail. I got 6.5 MPG at 70MPH and 8.5MPG at 55MPH so I guess its going to be a slow cruiser unless when I got it singled, will help with the mileage.

Got lots of stares at the campground, followed a million dollar Provost into the park, nobody looked at it twice, I came around the corner and everybody in ear shot stopped and stared while I drove by. I had a nice lot (40' x 60') so I had no issues on fitting in, regardless I had it "singled" to try and keep it within the same length of a typical long bed crew dually.

I was researching the net for parts (something to cover the rear wheels etc) and other owners to see how many people had done what I am doing when I found you all.

I pickup the truck next week, a trucking outfit in the town where I work, singled it for me, removed the original hitch and cut the frame for free, they keep the parts they removed for payment. They had to have a custom drive shaft made for it and when installed ill get to take her back home.

Long term, I plan to gut the inside and redo it along the lines of a customized van, remove the top roof fairing as its taller than the trailer and it hits everything in the smaller local campgrounds I like to go, removing it puts the top of the sleeper approximately 6" below the roof line of my 5'er. I plan to put in a rear door from a motor home in the sleeper and a more handicap friendly retracting star case like a r.v. would have off of the passenger side between the sleeper and the rear wheel for my folks who have arthritis issues (grandma has issues with the normal entry points) to enter and use the vehicle.

Then I plan to have the damage over the passenger side headlamp fixed and then Ill learn how to paint on its lower side fairings and when I get good enough ill shoot the whole truck (looking to try metallic white with clear coat).

I would like to build some sort of flat deck onto it with the afore-mentioned stair case but haven't come up with a plan of action on that yet, preferably a deck with some storage boxes where I can fit them in... I also plan to add larger, r.v. type windows on the driver side of the sleeper to see out more and allow for more air movement and one in the large escape door for the same purpose. The interior is shot, looks and smells of being lived in for twenty years but it will clean up nicely when its done (Lord willing).

Anyhow, here is my photo album of the truck, in its original condition, connected to the 5'er and its most recent look after being "singled", I had a lot of closeups as a friend who lives far away is giving me advice on how to fix a few of the body problems, so I took a number of close ups.

I am more excited knowing that there are others out there that have done this, I was starting to wonder how I was going to pull this all off now, I may have found a place to discuss and research options for going this route. I hope you all enjoy the images and short video of my first parking attempt (I was dodging a parked car out of frame on the right) thanks a head of time for putting up with my long post!

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Old 12-24-2013, 05:30 PM   #58
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I am thinking that I lost something in translation.
Are you people talking about your M.H. or your toe car or maybe both.
Just a thought.
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Old 12-25-2013, 01:56 AM   #59
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I am thinking that I lost something in translation. Are you people talking about your M.H. or your toe car or maybe both. Just a thought.
Yep, some of us are talking about our trucks that are registered as a M.H. The rest of us are talking about our trucks that are registered as private vehicles.
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:08 PM   #60
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Been a long time since I have been on here. A divorce 3 years ago was the reason where I had to keep working to pay off some major debt. This forum helped me to go into an HDT which I still have today. 1999 Volvo VNL 610 that was pulled from commercial service way back in 2005 and converted to MH title. Removing the front rear axle and nicely amended with aluminum deck and storage boxes. I dressed the truck up with new mirrors and many an hour of blood sweat and tears cleaning it up to a like new look. Some of the things like changed all the fluids and other maintenance just to have a base line for my use. My 5th wheel is a Redwood 38GK residential. I also carry my Victory Vision behind the sleeper and can load it by myself using a rampage lift system. A couple of things I did to help it with today's traveling was changed the gear ratio from a 370 to a 327 and now idle along at 1500 RPM getting 9.1 MPG at all times. As far as towing I am sold on towing these large RV's with retired commercial trucks set up to tow them, as we all tend to pack more than we should the safety factor makes it a no brainer to do. Couple of new knees (1 done) and I will be living a dream I have had for 40 plus years. Traveling to see this great country..... I know this post is old but you never know mmaybe it is time to fire it back up again as more people look at this alternative over a 100K pick up. Happy New Year may your 2022 be everything and more.
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Old 01-20-2022, 08:09 PM   #61
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We tow our 21k 2003 Grand Teton with ours. Love it
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Old 06-01-2022, 04:17 PM   #62
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Just getting started at this, had a REALLY old 24' fifth wheel years ago but my towing truck was not up to par for it and it sat A LOT. Currently rebuilding a 2005 KW W900L C15 500hp, 18 spd, tandem on eight bag air ride. Traded into it where was Dead and have gotten it back running on a fresh overhaul, loads of small issues where also fixing to repaint after a little Body Work TLC.
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Old 07-06-2022, 04:05 PM   #63
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We have an 04 Volvo 630, D12 with the ZF/Meritor 13 Spd that is singled out with a rear deck and a 2016 SmartCar. We tow a 2015 New Horizons, quad slide 52ft toyhaulerl. "She's not heavy, she's fluffy!"
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Old 10-01-2022, 08:06 AM   #64
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Have to ask, did the fifth wheel placement become a obstacle for the full size semi types? I intend to utilize our truck both for Personal use pulling a camper as well as farm machine/materials hauls to and from our other farm some 85 miles from home.

Measured out with full size wheel all the way back in slider, is 58" to rear of frame, just at 72" to where fender corner will reside at rear.

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Old 02-07-2023, 10:50 AM   #65
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I tow with a HDT. 1989 FLD 120 with a 2000 NRC toter conversion.
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Old 02-08-2023, 08:53 AM   #66
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Get over to the Escapees forums. There is a large group of folks towing with HDT truck. Lots of good Info there.

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