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04-26-2017, 05:05 PM
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Off set wheels
Leaving my HDT a tandem to save singling cost and curious if anyone has run single wheels in tandem application. Switching to super singles isn't very cost effective but what about getting a off set wheel and still running my 11R22.5's?? Thoughts or anyone with experience, Thanks.
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04-26-2017, 05:12 PM
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If you have hub centered wheels, no problem, just put the wheels on like you forgot the inners. 
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04-26-2017, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unplanned
If you have hub centered wheels, no problem, just put the wheels on like you forgot the inners. |
I do not, still just the tandem duals that came on truck. I'm going to look into a cost on some new or used from a wrecker tomorrow.
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04-29-2017, 11:49 AM
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I've seen guys doing it. So it can be done. I don't know about hub centered wheels and such.
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04-29-2017, 12:18 PM
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Hub centered wheels use the hub and center of the wheel to keep the wheel centered and only use 1 set of lug nuts. The older nut centered wheels use inner and outer nuts to keep the wheel centered. There is a chamfer in the wheel stud holes on the old style wheels that the nut fits into. Hub centered wheels use nuts with a flange that puts the pressure on the wheel to hold it tight against the hub.
Hope that helps. You can google it. Be sure to get the proper style for your hubs. Lots of guys run normal singles on the rear.
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04-29-2017, 12:28 PM
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You do put a radial load on the axle bearings not having both dual wheels. Is it enough to damage the axle bearings has long been debated.
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04-29-2017, 01:01 PM
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Would it be a bearing issue though if the single wheel was centred to the hub ? rather than just taking the insides off and bolting a single dually rim on if that makes sense.
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04-29-2017, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodeoRig
Would it be a bearing issue though if the single wheel was centred to the hub ? rather than just taking the insides off and bolting a single dually rim on if that makes sense.
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That is what a super-single is. Not many no-offset rims for 22.5" rims
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04-29-2017, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale & Mark Bruss
You do put a radial load on the axle bearings not having both dual wheels. Is it enough to damage the axle bearings has long been debated.
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I'm pretty sure he will be a long way from the 37,400 lbs. on the 2 axels (8 wheels). The allowed weight for 2 axels (tandem) and 4 tires (11R22.5) is still 19,360 lbs. If his wheel bearings are in good shape, they will be good for 1,000,000 miles with the load that will be on his rear drives hauling a 5er. He will probably be less than 1/2 his rated load.
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04-29-2017, 01:44 PM
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Ok thanks for all the info, from talking to some tire dealers and reading forums I'm just going to leave it as is for now and run tandem duals.
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04-29-2017, 01:53 PM
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It has been discussed a lot on another (HDT) forum...I think the general consensus is yes, you can do it..is it good ? Nope..
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04-29-2017, 01:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grassy
It has been discussed a lot on another (HDT) forum...I think the general consensus is yes, you can do it..is it good ? Nope..
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Ya I guess that's why guys single them, I was just trying to avoid that cost as well as curious about running less rubber because what I'm hauling I don't need 8 drives. I singled my last HDT long and wasn't happy with the ride, and super singles aren't a cost effective solution either.
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04-29-2017, 02:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodeoRig
Ya I guess that's why guys single them, I was just trying to avoid that cost as well as curious about running less rubber because what I'm hauling I don't need 8 drives. I singled my last HDT long and wasn't happy with the ride, and super singles aren't a cost effective solution either.
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I thought about super singles too..especially since they are made near me..but outside my comfort zone.
I thought long would give you a better ride and the ability to use more of your deck.
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04-29-2017, 02:17 PM
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Had a big deck for sure but not enough weight on drive axle/deck and it was hard on my trailer not to mention horrible traction in mud or snow.
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