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I have a 1998 Winnebago Brave on a P-32 chassis with 5500# front axle. It rides about 2" lower in the front, even with 90# in the air bags. I am told that the Henderson, or Super Steer springs might solve the problem.
It is low enough in the front that I frequently have to raise the front wheels off the ground to level. I prefer to keep rubber on the ground at all four corners whenever possible.
I'm looking for feedback from those who have used these springs, and where I might find them at a reasonable price.
Thanks in advance for your responses and suggestions.
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05-12-2008, 02:42 PM
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I have a 1998 Winnebago Brave on a P-32 chassis with 5500# front axle. It rides about 2" lower in the front, even with 90# in the air bags. I am told that the Henderson, or Super Steer springs might solve the problem.
It is low enough in the front that I frequently have to raise the front wheels off the ground to level. I prefer to keep rubber on the ground at all four corners whenever possible.
I'm looking for feedback from those who have used these springs, and where I might find them at a reasonable price.
Thanks in advance for your responses and suggestions.
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Tom and Barb
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05-12-2008, 02:59 PM
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Tom,
If you weigh the front of the coach we can get you some springs that will lift the front end to the proper ride hieght.
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05-12-2008, 03:09 PM
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I don't have an exact front end weight, but it is rated at 5500#, according to the plate on the wall. I'll try to get it to a scale this coming weekend.
How difficult is it to replace the springs? Can the airbags be used with the new springs for extra cushioning?
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05-12-2008, 03:16 PM
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You need to get an actual front end weight,we then match that to a new set of springs.The air bag would no longer be needed.
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05-12-2008, 03:30 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply Mike. I'll work on getting an actual weight and get back with you.
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05-13-2008, 07:05 PM
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Mine is rated the same and weighed about 5200 without passengers as I recall. I'm thinking you'll probablly end up with the 5500 to 6000 lb. model. Camping world does the job pretty resonable and I almost went for it instead of installing new air bags last year. I wouldn't bother with the air bags any longer, once you install those coils.
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05-14-2008, 05:59 AM
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Have you measured you front ride height It may be that the rear of your MH is too high. The Workhorse web site has a free download chassis manual that explains how to measure you front ride height. I beleive it's 21/2 inches from the bump stop to the a frame but i'm not sure.
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05-14-2008, 02:36 PM
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Thank yo both for your replies. I am still looking for a scale within a reasonable distance of me. I've been intending to get a proper weight for some time now anyway. I'll crawl under the front end to get the measurement as suggested, it looks to be about 2 inches. I hadn't thought about the rear being too high, must be I haven't packed enough "stuff" over the rear axle yet.
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05-14-2008, 03:06 PM
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There's a certified Cat scale at:
SPEEDWAY SUPER AMERICA
I-94, EXIT 66
MATTAWAN, MI 49071
Cat scale finder
Cost is $8 for rear axle, front axle and total.
Pull on, press button and tell the girl you're a motorhome. Go inside, get the slip and pay. Your slip will look like the one below.
Stay out of the way of the truckers.
Get new springs and no air bags needed.
-Tom
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05-14-2008, 03:38 PM
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Thank you very much for the help. I'll take it there this weekend and get it weighed. That's less than 10 miles from my house and I didn't realize they had a scale.
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05-14-2008, 06:20 PM
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Here's a site that should explain what you want to know...
http://hendersonslineup.com/uncatego...-coil-springs/
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05-15-2008, 05:37 PM
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Thank you for the reply. That is exactly the type of information I was looking for. It is clear that I need to get a weight of the front end before continuing.
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05-16-2008, 07:26 PM
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Kazoo,
Replacing your springs is going to have no effect on your leveling. Once the front suspension droops to its max travel (the upper a-arms hit the frame rail or the shocks fully extend) the front wheels will come off the ground. The new springs will only change ride height. After your new, stiffer springs are installed, make sure that the upper a-arms and all other components are riding in free air (no contact). I have seen upper a-arms cross shaft mounts levered off of the frame rail when to much spring is installed and the suspension "tops out".
Randy
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