|
03-28-2024, 06:13 AM
|
#1
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2024
Posts: 1
|
Air bags in the front springs
I noticed when I put my 2000 daybreak by Damon in jack stands the air bags in the front suspension springs have huges open cracks in them how do I go about replacing them and what exactly are they called. Anyone know
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
03-28-2024, 06:31 AM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 8,799
|
Sounds like you have the Chevy/Workhorse P chassis.
The front air springs ARE a critical part of the front suspension and with some work, can be replaced without removing the coil springs/releasing the lower A arm.
But, do check lower A arm ball joints as well-- they are often worn.
__________________
Brett Wolfe
Ex: 2003 Alpine 38FDDS. Ex: 1997 Safari Sahara. Ex: 1993 Foretravel U240
|
|
|
03-28-2024, 09:20 AM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SW Louisiana
Posts: 9,159
|
Watch this video Note using a vacuum pump makes it easier than the hot water method, I used a hand pumped small vacuum pump when I did mine a few years ago.
__________________
2002 Safari Trek 2830 on P32 Chassis with 8.1L w/ 400 watts solar 420Ah LiFePo4
2017 Jeep Cherokee Overland & 2007 Toyota Yaris TOADs with Even Brake,
Demco Commander tow bar and Blue Ox / Roadmaster base plates
|
|
|
03-28-2024, 08:31 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 2,445
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac-1
Watch this video Note using a vacuum pump makes it easier than the hot water method, I used a hand pumped small vacuum pump when I did mine a few years ago.
|
Or connect to a vacuum port on your engine! You might have to fabricate a hose that will connect to the Schrader valve (hint: a air pressure hose) on the air bag to a slip on to a vacuum port.
As it collapses twist it as tight as you can. I secured mine with large zip ties. I cut the zip ties off just as they reached the hole in the A-Frame.
__________________
2003 34' Georgetown on W20 Workhorse Chassis. UltraRV power mods. Doug Thorley Headers and MagnaFlow 12589 mufflers. Front Sumo Springs, Rear P32 Sumo Springs, UltraRV Track Bar.
1998 Jeep Toad.
|
|
|
04-02-2024, 02:27 AM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Renton-Highlands,Wa./HB,Ca./Fujieda-Japan
Posts: 945
|
Best to use some large size worm clamps instead of the zip ties. Three of them will do. Also a cordless drill to close them careful watching to make sure the clamps do not dig into air bag.
Once cinched down in size you ease them up into the control arm hole. And remove (1) clamp at a time while walking them up. Once bag is nearly in slide the black disc on top of the bag and carefully push last portion of bag in.
The second disc goes in last. Fold it somewhat and work it into place so that the vale stem goes the center hole of disc. Then air up bag.
__________________
1994 Southwind Storm 28ft - 454TBI w/4L80E
VIN#1GBJP37N4R3314754
Flight System G-Man 360 generator man (PM me)
|
|
|
04-02-2024, 02:47 AM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Eastern outskirts of Dallas, TX
Posts: 4,724
|
If you have the Chevy P style of chassis with coil springs and air bags - you need to also check the bell cranks for wear.
The original GM design was less than marginal - on our ‘91, the driver side was worn out at 17k miles. As was the pitman arm, and I went ahead and replaced all the tie rod ends at the same time - then got aligned.
Replace only with SuperSteers. Expensive, but they will last the life of the coach..
__________________
91 Ultrastar Champion02 Georgie Boy Landau 8.1l Workhorse
03 Jeep Wrangler TJ 2018 Jeep Wrangler JK toad
|
|
|
04-02-2024, 05:48 AM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SW Louisiana
Posts: 9,159
|
The other big thing to stay on top of with a P series coach is the front wheel bearings which need to be repacked every 15,000 miles, note the front spindles are no longer available, if you ruin them by not repacking your front bearings will need find a set at a junkyard, last I heard they were going for over $3,000 each in serviceable used condition.
__________________
2002 Safari Trek 2830 on P32 Chassis with 8.1L w/ 400 watts solar 420Ah LiFePo4
2017 Jeep Cherokee Overland & 2007 Toyota Yaris TOADs with Even Brake,
Demco Commander tow bar and Blue Ox / Roadmaster base plates
|
|
|
04-02-2024, 09:06 AM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,952
|
And, welcome to IRV2!
__________________
George Schweikle Lexington, KY
2005 Safari (Monaco)Trek 28RB2, Workhorse W20, 8.1, Allison 1000 5 spd, UltraPower engine & tranny, Track bars & sway bars, KONI FSD, FMCA 190830, Safari Int'l. chapter. 1999 Safari Trek 2830, 1995 Safari Trek 2430, 1983 Winnebago Chieftain, 1976 Midas Mini
|
|
|
12-12-2024, 08:42 AM
|
#9
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Cape Breton
Posts: 23
|
air bags in front coil springs.
i followed videos for help, but last third wasn't working;
so took a metal popcan-cut off top and bottom of can to get a piece of aluimum sheet that i wrapped around last of new air bag and with three metal pipe clamps squeezed air bag, then using a large junk rubber bushing and jack was able to force the air bag the last bit into spring. vacuum pump twisted air bag into shape that was hard to handle and force into spring.
|
|
|
12-13-2024, 08:43 AM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Fulda, MN
Posts: 1,666
|
When I got my P32 I done it the easy way, I took it to the local truck alignment shop and told them to fix it. Wrote them a check and went on my way.
__________________
2000 Winnebago Adventurer 32v, P32 Workhorse
2005 Winnebago Adventurer 38J W24 Workhorse 8.1l, 5 Speed Allison MH2000
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|