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02-06-2009, 03:35 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Following the threads on brake problems I took my o4 Sea Breeze in to have the calipers and slides inspected. When the wheels were removed, all the brake disks were cracked, accelerating the lining deterioration and creating a dangerous condition. $2000 later, and I'm safe again (for a while). Just finished filing a complaint with the NHTSA online. Everyone having problems needs to do this if we want any action taken.
BTW, my mechanic said this was common, due to underengineering of the components.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
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02-06-2009, 03:44 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Glendora Ca.
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psyflyjohn,
I wonder how many rotors have gone through the Workhorse parts system compared to how many chassis they built...
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02-06-2009, 04:40 PM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: La Crescenta, CA USA
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Is it possible to purchase after market brake parts for WH chassis's?
George
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2004 Allegro 30DA W-20
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02-06-2009, 05:11 PM
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Texas Boomers Club
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mo/Texas
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Quote:
Originally posted by psyflyjohn:
Following the threads on brake problems I took my o4 Sea Breeze in to have the calipers and slides inspected. When the wheels were removed, all the brake disks were cracked, accelerating the lining deterioration and creating a dangerous condition. $2000 later, and I'm safe again (for a while). Just finished filing a complaint with the NHTSA online. Everyone having problems needs to do this if we want any action taken.
BTW, my mechanic said this was common, due to underengineering of the components.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
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What did the mechanic mean by "underengineering of the components".
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02-07-2009, 06:58 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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"Underengineering"...picture brakes from a subcompact car on a pick-up truck.
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02-07-2009, 08:11 AM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Quote:
Originally posted by cvrvr:
Is it possible to purchase after market brake parts for WH chassis's?
George
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I haven't verified any of this but should be good numbers. Follow this thread.
Avalondanes
"Fleetwood Owners Forum Member"
Posted June 04, 2008 03:41 PM Hide Post
Here are some numbers that may help.
Brake pads: 73mm - 66mm
Holdex part num. HP7655D786 - HP7654D786
Bendix part num. BXMKD786 - BXMKD786A
PFC part num. PFH078610 - PFH078611
Rear Disc:
International 2594596C1
Ford Truck 4C4Z-2C0-26AA
Rear Caliper:
Ryder Fleet part num: SL55850
International 2593419C91
Ford Truck 4C4Z-2B120-MB
Caliper Pin kit:
International 2509252C92
Ford Truck 4C4Z-2C150-AB
Richard
2006 Revolution 40L, 400HP Cat C9, Allison 6 speed, Spartan Chassis, Aero-Turbine Muffler
Posts: 139 | Location: Salisbury,North Carolina | Registered: July 20, 2007
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02-07-2009, 08:16 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sonoma County, California
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Quote:
Originally posted by psyflyjohn:
Following the threads on brake problems I took my o4 Sea Breeze in to have the calipers and slides inspected. When the wheels were removed, all the brake disks were cracked, accelerating the lining deterioration and creating a dangerous condition. $2000 later, and I'm safe again (for a while). Just finished filing a complaint with the NHTSA online. Everyone having problems needs to do this if we want any action taken.
BTW, my mechanic said this was common, due to underengineering of the components.
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Sorry to hear of your troubles, but am glad that you took the time to file with the NHTSA and post here. I see you have an '04'; is that the year of the motorhome, the chassis, or both? And what chassis series do you have? Lastly, is there anything specific that comes to mind on why you feel this may have happened, such as driving in the mountains, dinghy towing, maybe you feel that you could have done more maintenance if these brake problems were better known to you a few years ago, etc.
No question in my mind that some Workhorse chassis seem to have chronic brake issues...
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02-07-2009, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southern California
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Psyflyjohn, please consider writing to your Congressman and asking him/her to put pressure on the NHTSA and Workhorse to develop a resolution to these severe brake problems. NHTSA has had an open investigation for over 14 months with no action and Workhorse flat out refuses to acknowledge there is a problem. Thanks.
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02-10-2009, 03:01 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Richard, It is a 2003 W22 chassis. I do tow, using a brake buddy aux. system. I drive conservitively, using downgearing a lot to save brakes. What amazed me is that 95% of the miles I drove were on the highway - mostly interstate.
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02-10-2009, 05:10 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: st.charles mo.
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[ this if we want any action taken.
QUOTE]Originally posted by psyflyjohn:
Following the threads on brake problems I took my o4 Sea Breeze in to have the calipers and slides inspected. When the wheels were removed, all the brake disks were cracked, accelerating the lining deterioration and creating a dangerous condition. $2000 later, and I'm safe again (for a while). Just finished filing a complaint with the NHTSA online. Everyoneeds to done having problems BTW, my mechanic said this was common, due to underengineering of the components.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/[/QUOTE] Is this mechanic a mechanical engineer or is this just his opinion.
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02-10-2009, 05:28 AM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Roving, Datastorm users 3192
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Quote:
Originally posted by cvrvr:
Is it possible to purchase after market brake parts for WH chassis's?
George
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YES, Workhorse buys their OEM hardware from one of two or three suppliers
All of the suppliers sell to other companies as well. and you can usually find the very same, IDENTICAL part, made in the very same IDENTICAL plant by the very same machines and people. for around 40% or less of the Workhorse replacement price.. Just so you know
Another thread told you exactly where to get the parts
And I have a "Visitor's Account" at the plant where they are made (Though my reasons for being listed as a Visitor in their computer has nothing to do with the company or it's products)
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