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DriVer · 12-17-2009, 08:20 PM

Have you guys see this?

Check it out!

max49 · 12-17-2009, 08:47 PM

That looks really cool!

It's too bad so many people are losing confidence in WH. Poor guys are waiting to get their brakes fixed and WH is 'moving right along' designing and building the UFO and now another new model.

Does anyone actually have a yellow frame or is that just for the show?

DriVer · 12-17-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by max49

That looks really cool!

Thanks for the review.

Captain Bud · 12-18-2009, 06:56 AM

Great write up,on a good looking chassis. However, a downer is using Bosch brakes with the existing problems unresolved. I think that you will be hit with this question time and time again. I know you will say that the calipers are different, the pistons are changed, and a new ABS system installed. Due to the deplorable handling of the recall I have lost confidence in the Workhorse product no matter what they come out with. IMHO

Spoonman · 12-18-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Bud

Great write up,on a good looking chassis. However, a downer is using Bosch brakes with the existing problems unresolved. I think that you will be hit with this question time and time again. I know you will say that the calipers are different, the pistons are changed, and a new ABS system installed. Due to the deplorable handling of the recall I have lost confidence in the Workhorse product no matter what they come out with. IMHO

You are correct, this issue has been mishandled from the beginning, denials, delays, delays, denials. In this economy,poor service will hurt you and drive your customers away, I hope.
Spending your money elsewhere is the only thing they will understand.

Photog · 12-18-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Bud

Due to the deplorable handling of the recall I have lost confidence in the Workhorse product no matter what they come out with. IMHO

I think you hit the nail right on the head. I doubt that I will consider a WH product in the future. I'm sure you and I are not the only ones who have that opinion.

RickNB · 12-18-2009, 10:49 AM

Interesting post Driver some nice additions to the lineup. The past is past and the future will tell the real story as I have nothing but good to say about my WH chassis I would be looking to WH in the future.

Rick

Captain Bud · 12-18-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RickNB

Interesting post Driver some nice additions to the lineup. The past is past and the future will tell the real story as I have nothing but good to say about my WH chassis I would be looking to WH in the future.

Rick

Sorry to say RICKNB but the past is not past, we owners are still living under the Sword of Damocles every time we drive our MHs. I have owned my MH for almost 7yrs. and enjoyed the vehicle until the last few years when this problem surfaced and a recall was issued. (notification thereof), now my patience is beginning to wear thin. I was looking forward to a rear engined gasser, now I understand that the big push is on FREDs., and Workhorse still hasn't fixed this brake problem.

HOW MUCH LONGER WORKHORSE?????

ruppr · 12-18-2009, 02:14 PM

I know it doesn't help to ease the pain (and money) of what you've had to go through, but not all WH models have had brake problems. There are a lot of happy WH chassis owners out there.

So just like GM, Ford, etc. brought out bad runs and had to be pushed to handle corrections, you can't condemned the entire WH lineup as being bad forever.

Yes, WH bought and installed the brakes in question, but they didn't make (produce) them, so they still have to wait themselves for something to be provided to them, to take the place of what is causing the problem on some models. Bottom line, they are not in the brake business, so they can't produce the replacement.

And I know you all know this also,

Best,

Bob

Fred and Bonnie · 12-18-2009, 08:58 PM

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So just like GM, Ford, etc. brought out bad runs and had to be pushed to handle corrections, you can't condemned the entire WH lineup as being bad forever.

Bob, this brake issue has been going on for several years. While we shouldn't condemn a company forever, nothing has been fixed, nothing is in the past.

Fred

rvten · 12-19-2009, 02:36 PM

It is a shame you WH owners are still having a problem. I had my 2001 Adventurer on the W-20 chassis brakes all replaced. After a front right brake froze up and cooked everything down to the spindle.

The brakes were the only issue I ever had with WH. WOuld still be a WH owner if they had come out with the C chassis sooner and Winny wasa useing it.

jdsr · 12-20-2009, 02:01 PM

For the ones who say not all wh have brake problems I would say dont jenks yourself. Everyday we see new posts, on this site as well as others, where the same ones who posted no problems are now saying My brakes failed last week. JCM just posted today he just had a failure and he has done all his maintance. Like I said I dont wish anyone any bad luck but imo its a wh brake problem. I dont understand why folks want to blame bosch for this holdup. Every time I had a brake problem I had to take it to a garage to get it fixed and not bosch. If you bought a ford, chevy, toyota or any other auto and say had a problem with, brakes, fuel pump ect, ect you wouldnt take it to the oem co that built the parts. You would take it to the dealership or garage. Now if wh would have investigated the brake problem and notified bosch so they could investige it for themselves instead of saying it was our fault for years I believe we would have a fix by now. WH would have to first, admit it has a brake problem to be able to notify bosch. How was bosch to know there was a brake problem? Now wh wont reimbursh anyone who had repairs before nov, 2007 even though the repairs were done because of def brakes. So imo the past is not the past untill we are made totally whole with our repair costs and we have a good brake system, if thats possible. Sorry for long post and it just my opinion,right?on a side note, the ufo was going to be my next chassis but im alittle concerned now.

George Z · 12-20-2009, 02:41 PM

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I dont understand why folks want to blame bosch for this holdup. Every time I had a brake problem I had to take it to a garage to get it fixed and not bosch. If you bought a ford, chevy, toyota or any other auto and say had a problem with, brakes, fuel pump ect, ect you wouldnt take it to the oem co that built the parts. You would take it to the dealership or garage. Now if wh would have investigated the brake problem and notified bosch so they could investige it for themselves instead of saying it was our fault for years I believe we would have a fix by now. WH would have to first, admit it has a brake problem to be able to notify bosch.

on a side note, the ufo was going to be my next chassis but im alittle concerned now.

Maybe WH notified Bosch and Bosch said there was not a problem as these units were in service elsewhere without problems. None of us are on the inside to know what happened or why dates and rules were set in the recall.

My Mercury was recalled for cruse control several years ago. They didn't care that we paid for cruise. Ford merely disconnected it and said do without until parts are available. 13 months later the part was installed after becoming available. Recalled 7 months later for same issue. Again disconnected for 2 months until another new part was installed. All manufactures have their problems.

also like the UFO for my next one, Fear is it won't be an available chassis.

George

RickNB · 12-20-2009, 06:41 PM

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or the ones who say not all wh have brake problems I would say dont jenks yourself.

So the owners that are happy with their WH chassis should just be quiet and not say that they have had no troubles and only let the owners that have had problems post about all the negative things that WH has done to them for if they do post that they have had no problems they will jenks themselves and have problems. I for one am not superstitious. If I do have a problem with my brakes I will have them fixed and yes with the calipers that are currently available I am not going to park my rig and sit and grumble about poor WH service and not use my rig the problem has been identified and someday in the future will be implemented.

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Everyday we see new posts, on this site as well as others, where the same ones who posted no problems are now saying My brakes failed last week. JCM just posted today he just had a failure and he has done all his maintance. Like I said I dont wish anyone any bad luck but imo its a wh brake problem.

WH has stated that there is a problem with the calipers(in writing to all owners) it is nobody's opinion anymore. Will it continue to happen? Yes I am sure it will WH has not stated that it will not continue to have failing brake problems and provides instructions in the notice as what to do if it does.

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I dont understand why folks want to blame bosch for this holdup. Every time I had a brake problem I had to take it to a garage to get it fixed and not bosch. If you bought a ford, chevy, toyota or any other auto and say had a problem with, brakes, fuel pump ect, ect you wouldnt take it to the oem co that built the parts. You would take it to the dealership or garage.

I did not realize that some owners were taking their rigs to Bosch for repairs I didnt know that Bosch had service centers that did repair work.

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Now if wh would have investigated the brake problem and notified bosch so they could investige it for themselves instead of saying it was our fault for years I believe we would have a fix by now. WH would have to first, admit it has a brake problem to be able to notify bosch. How was bosch to know there was a brake problem? Now wh wont reimbursh anyone who had repairs before nov, 2007 even though the repairs were done because of def brakes. So imo the past is not the past] untill we are made totally whole with our repair costs and we have a good brake system, if thats possible.

These items were all in the past and weather or not they were handled right they have happened and cannot be changed now just the same as something that happened 2 seconds ago cannot be changed. Lets put a period in what we cannot change and get on with the future and maybe we can all have a good brake system even the owners that have not had any problems.

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Sorry for long post and it just my opinion,right?on a side note, the ufo was going to be my next chassis but im alittle concerned now.

Just my opinion
Rick