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Old 01-24-2023, 07:21 AM   #1
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Just a recall question

I have looked at several early 2000's motorhomes with the brake recall not having been done. Most have in the range of 50K to 70K miles on them. How important are the recalls by this time with that many miles? Did all the Bosch brakes fail? Do you suppose the previous owners had some work done on them being unaware of the recall? Most dealers I talked to knew nothing about a recall but said "if there is a recall, we have a department that does only that".
Makes a person wonder.
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Old 01-24-2023, 01:41 PM   #2
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I have looked at several early 2000's motorhomes with the brake recall not having been done. Most have in the range of 50K to 70K miles on them. How important are the recalls by this time with that many miles? Did all the Bosch brakes fail? Do you suppose the previous owners had some work done on them being unaware of the recall? Most dealers I talked to knew nothing about a recall but said "if there is a recall, we have a department that does only that".
Makes a person wonder.
The "brake recall" cover ONLY the following:

Customer Safety Recall 51101-C: Bosch brake caliper remove and replace on W20 W21 W22 and W22D chassis built from July 24, 2000 thru August 2, 2010


ONLY the W-22 series chassis were recalled because of these "faulty" calipers.

I say "faulty" because it was determined that the phenolic resin used as pistons was prone to swelling in the bores due to absorbing moisture trapped by the brake fluid. Obviously, there were / are some that never failed (yet) , but that does not mean the recall should not be completed.

As I run vin # for owners, both old and new, or for prospective buyers like you, I continue to find some that show the recall as still "open", which only means that Navistar/WCC has not paid for the recall to be completed.

It is possible that some owners HAVE replaced the OE version calipers at their own expense due to not knowing about the recall, or being told it is no longer being done by Navistar. It is also possible that frequent use and / or dry climate conditions have not allowed the brake fluid to trap enough moisture to swell the pistons. ONE of the many reasons the recognition of the actual problem took YEARS to discover is that thousands of commercial chassis had the same calipers without ANY failures, and that led WCC and Bosch to believe that MH drivers were the problem, and not the lack of use that was actually the real reason for the fluid contamination.

AFAIK, Navistar is still fulfilling its obligation by providing the calipers and paying for the 3 hours of shop labor, as mandated by the recall. I believe that obligation remains in effect, regardless of who owns Navistar, which I think is now the VW Group international conglomerate.
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Where or with whom do you check the VIN to find out if the recall has been done. I have a W22 built in June of 2010 as a 2011 model. I would hope the first owner was notified and had it done but he is no longer with us and there is no way to know that I am aware of yet. Thanks
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Where or with whom do you check the VIN to find out if the recall has been done. I have a W22 built in June of 2010 as a 2011 model. I would hope the first owner was notified and had it done but he is no longer with us and there is no way to know that I am aware of yet. Thanks
If you send me the last eight (8) numbers of the vin that begins with "5B4", via email, I can check that for you. edgray1@gmail.com
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Where or with whom do you check the VIN to find out if the recall has been done. I have a W22 built in June of 2010 as a 2011 model. I would hope the first owner was notified and had it done but he is no longer with us and there is no way to know that I am aware of yet. Thanks
I replied to your email. Happy trails!
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edgray; I neglected to mention that I was looking at the W22. They were both the ones you had sent the sheets on. The coaches were both in really bad shape once I looked at them in person. The dealers seem to have a way of hiding all the bad decals etc. in their online photos.
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