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Neveragain · 01-29-2020, 08:06 AM

I cannot find the info on the 4 way flasher, turn signal continued failure and remedy. I have seen bits and pieces of info but not the entire article to fix it. I have replaced this switch three times and it has burned out again.

Jim_HiTek · 01-29-2020, 08:13 AM

This is an open forum and it's typical for posters to mention the age, brand, and model of the RV. And in your case, the engine type and chassis manufacturer since you're asking a chassis question.

In a Freightliner chassis, they hide the flasher deep inside a huge bundle of wire looms all zip tied together. Very hard to find.

Can't tell anything from your post. If you posted before, didn't see it.

Thanks!

Unplanned Tourist · 01-29-2020, 08:29 AM

I am guessing you have a Workhorse chassis?

Do you pull a toad?

Maybe there's simply too much load if you are running the power for 2 sets of lights through the multi function switch.

Time to switch to LEDs?

Happy Glamping.

Neveragain · 01-29-2020, 11:16 AM

This is for my 2003 Fleetwood Bounder with a workhorse chassis. This problem is pretty widely known in the rv community. 4 way flasher, turn signal, cruise control, windshield wiper multifunction switch keeps melting due to extra load created when splicing into the chassis wiring for the toad lights. I have seen some reference to intalling relays using after market kits to remedy this failure, but I can't locate where to get the kits or how they work, where to install them, etc. .

Unplanned Tourist · 01-29-2020, 11:42 AM

I didn't tap into my Ranger lights.

Simple to install a set of aftermarket tail/turn/stop LED lights.

The stock brake lights come on when the Brake Buddy applies the brakes on the toad, but other than that, it's LED for me.

Some people go to the trouble of putting an extra LED bulb in the original housing, but often it will not be as bright as the aftermarket LEDs.

Happy Glamping.

bruceh · 01-30-2020, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Neveragain

I cannot find the info on the 4 way flasher, turn signal continued failure and remedy. I have seen bits and pieces of info but not the entire article to fix it. I have replaced this switch three times and it has burned out again.

I wrote this a while ago. Toward the end, I added the solution -- relays. It isn't that difficult a wiring job and the toughest part was drilling a couple of holes in the frame to mount them. I have had no failures since I did this. Page 3 has the instructions for adding the relays.

There is no 'kit' that I am aware of. You just need two relays and some wiring smarts.

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f22/multi...in-103261.html

Another option is to replace all of the bulbs, including whatever you tow, with LEDs.

In 2011 this wasn't a reasonable option.

Good luck!

Neveragain · 01-31-2020, 09:37 PM

Thanks for all the help. I think I'm on the right track now.

BmanRRT · 07-03-2021, 03:46 PM

Is it normal for the cruise control to still work when the multifunction switch is bad? 2002 Fleetwood Bounder 39R DP on freightliner chassis.

SmilingSam · 07-15-2021, 12:36 AM

Operative word is 'multi' as there are several 'switches' and many wires inside that OVERLY complicated almost silly/stupid GM ONLY switch mess.

Have never seen a Japanese brand have so many functions on a single pod arm - really is crazy IMO !

My current Nissan has lights & turn signals on a pod on left and wipers on right side, cruise control is on steering wheel, it is REALLY REALLY stupid to mix up many functions in a single area & on a single control device - asking for confusion in a emergency situation!! - ergonomics experts would shudder with such a confusing mess of switches !!

(ps: would not be sooo bad if NOT crucial functions such as lights and wipers - many newer cars with no touch screens have lots of function via a rotating 'switch' and a single display and push to select - ALL NOT highly important things though !!!)

Why did GM do it, as most things done by them that make little sense - $ !!! GM does not care if the switch cost $150-$200 to replace - why should they, its YOUR $ and NOT during warranty.

pps: have you been able to take the switch apart, you may can 'refurbish' bad contacts via some careful soldering or rewire flaky wiring, or replace wires etc ?

GL!

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Originally Posted by BmanRRT

Is it normal for the cruise control to still work when the multifunction switch is bad? 2002 Fleetwood Bounder 39R DP on freightliner chassis.