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10-11-2013, 08:31 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Stoneham, Maine
Posts: 125
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OBD 2 Scanner
I recently purchased a OBD 2 scanner to use on my 2005 Pace Arrow. My unit is the W24 on a Workhorse Chassis with the 8.1 L gasser. The scanner was a 3020a by Innova. You have to go to their website to get the code directory. I was unable to do so for my coach, so I contacted their tech support and was informed that their products were for autos and light trucks 8500 lb GVW and under. Can anyone recommend an OBD 2 scanner that will work with my coach??
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10-11-2013, 08:32 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 6,401
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Scan Gauge II
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Wayne & Roberta
08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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10-11-2013, 08:43 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Stoneham, Maine
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I just read the write up on the Scan Guage II on Amazon. An impressive unit, but way more than I was looking for and a little pricey if you are just looking for a scanner. I assume you have one and have not had any problems using it on your coach. It is kind of interesting that I have yet to find any comment in the product descriptions about heavy duty vehicles/trucks. Think I'll do a little more research before jumping on the Scan Guage II. But thanks for the recommendation.
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10-11-2013, 08:56 PM
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See my blog on your past op
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Dave and Laura & two cats
02 Discovery with Accord toad
retired auto rv tech and teacher, wife rt nurse
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10-11-2013, 09:03 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
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Location: Cobble Hill, B.C.
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Dumb question, scanners are for the power train. Is there no vehicles out there under the 8500 lbs that use that same configuration? What would be the difference? To keep an eye on how my rig is running, I picked a Garmin Ecoroute ($80.)that stays hooked to your OBD2 and sends the info to an app (Garmin mechanic) on your phone. (free)it will show codes and allow you to clear them.
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2000 Winnebago 35U, Ford F53/6.8l V10
F150 Ford and Vintage Aspencade.
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10-12-2013, 02:19 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandpavan
I recently purchased a OBD 2 scanner to use on my 2005 Pace Arrow. My unit is the W24 on a Workhorse Chassis with the 8.1 L gasser. The scanner was a 3020a by Innova. You have to go to their website to get the code directory. I was unable to do so for my coach, so I contacted their tech support and was informed that their products were for autos and light trucks 8500 lb GVW and under. Can anyone recommend an OBD 2 scanner that will work with my coach??
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you do not need a code directory. any cheap code reader will work. just write down the code and then ''google it''.
you will get a lot of info this way, maybe more than you want.
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10-12-2013, 09:24 AM
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Location: Madison, MS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandpavan
I just read the write up on the Scan Guage II on Amazon. An impressive unit, but way more than I was looking for and a little pricey if you are just looking for a scanner. I assume you have one and have not had any problems using it on your coach. It is kind of interesting that I have yet to find any comment in the product descriptions about heavy duty vehicles/trucks. Think I'll do a little more research before jumping on the Scan Guage II. But thanks for the recommendation.
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Many of us have the Liner Logic Scan Guage II for our Workhorse chassis, and I use mine all the time. IF you decide to bite the bullet and buy one, I suggest you get it from OEMY's website because he will program the "X-gauges" for your W24. However, you will NOT be able to monitor the tranny fluid temp if your Allison is a six (6) speed. The SG II does a great job and allows you to monitor 4 functions at one time while driving, and works as a code reader / eraser too.
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10-14-2013, 10:46 AM
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Member
Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NNY
Posts: 91
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Love my scan gauge II.
I do need to send it back and get it upgraded though.
Works well and gives a lot of information.
OBD II should be OBD II it's a "system" wide standard.
Keith
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2001 MACA, 8.1L workhorse (8/12)
2017 Chevy Equinox fwd (frog)
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10-14-2013, 04:58 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Jarrell, TX 76537
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keitha
Love my scan gauge II.
I do need to send it back and get it upgraded though.
Works well and gives a lot of information.
OBD II should be OBD II it's a "system" wide standard.
Keith
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If you bought it from me the upgrade is free... Well almost, just postage which will run about $10 round trip.
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AKA - Oemy
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10-15-2013, 10:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keitha
Love my scan gauge II.
I do need to send it back and get it upgraded though.
Works well and gives a lot of information.
OBD II should be OBD II it's a "system" wide standard.
Keith
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Keith, hate to disagree but you are right with generic codes only. Manufacture codes do not need to comply with obd rules. Obd codes start with a letter (p for power train as an example). The next digit ,a number if a 0 is generic. Any other numbers are manufactur specific that some lower cost code readers will not recognize. Generic codes were developed to help emmissions testing as any code that will effect emissions by 20 percent is reqired to be generic in nature. Yes California started all this. Some other systems that are generic would be fuel vapor control (code that sets when you leave your gas cap off), catylist efficiency, and any other system that will effect emissions by 20 percent.
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Dave and Laura & two cats
02 Discovery with Accord toad
retired auto rv tech and teacher, wife rt nurse
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10-16-2013, 09:26 AM
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Member
Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NNY
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Thanks Stink.
I didn't know the manufactures also used obd.
I was only familiar with the drivability emission side of the obd.
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Keith & Debbie
2001 MACA, 8.1L workhorse (8/12)
2017 Chevy Equinox fwd (frog)
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10-27-2013, 06:32 AM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pikeville, NC
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I agree with Dan L about you getting more info than you want with the Scan Gauge II.
I've had one in the MH for years now. It works great on my rig except for the oil pressure. I don't think Scan Gauge has broken that particular code yet. My factory oil gauge (analog) shows about 65 psi all the time, so I'm not too concerned about that parameter.
I have just recently purchased a Mini Cooper "S" (the turbo charged model) so I thought I would put one in it also, because they don't believe (BMW) in giving hardly any information to the guy/gal driving it. It has a tack, a speedometer and a fuel gauge. That's about it. Well, when I got the Scan Gauge II and installed it, and made my first run, it became apparent why BMW omits this info for the average "pilot" of the ship- .
The Mini's water temperature, the transmission fluid temperature and the "engine operating temperature" (a new one to me) all read within one degree of 225 F degrees- . I now see the alternator puts out about 14.2 volts.
As I transition back into the MH, I'm real happy to see my transmission fluid temp around 135 to 150 degrees. The water coolant temp runs 195 to 207 F degrees- .
You ask "why would an 'ole _ _ _ _ like me want a Mini? Because "we" decided not to leave that money for kids who don't even know how to say "thanks" for birthday and Christmas gifts.
Besides, I've always wanted a sports car and this little hummer fits that void on my punch list. It's a blast to drive. We got the automatic/manual 6 speed job- It has "paddles" on the steering wheels to manually shift, up or down to any gear, anytime you might want to. It has no clutch. I can't tow it and I don't want to fool around with a dolly, so it is a "toy" sitting at home in the garage, covered up, waiting for us to return. The bride gets neat looks and "thumbs up" all the time. A young guard at our local AF base near our home, checked her ID, waved her through in our "Mellow Yellow Mini" and said "neat ride" - it made her day.
Mini has become the most profitable division of BMW recently-
Oemy sez he's picked out bugs from his air cleaner bigger on his "Challenger" than our little 2600 lb car- I had challenged him to a road race, but he declined. An interesting bit of info- the owners manual for the Mini sez- if you run under 100 mph put 33 psi in all the tires, if you are running over 100 mph, add 5 psi to all tires-
Cheers,
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2002 Newmar Mountain Aire, 37', 3778, W-22, 8.1 Vortac, Ultra Power upgrade, CAI (cold air intake), Taylor wires, colder plugs, Koni shocks.
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