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08-30-2006, 04:32 PM
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It seems most people on the forum refer to the OEM as the coach builder. I assume OEM stands for original equipment mfgr. If that's correct it seems the coach originates at the chassis mfgring plant. So why do we refer to the box builder as the OEM ? Who issues the MSO (mfgrs statement of origin) ?
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08-30-2006, 04:32 PM
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It seems most people on the forum refer to the OEM as the coach builder. I assume OEM stands for original equipment mfgr. If that's correct it seems the coach originates at the chassis mfgring plant. So why do we refer to the box builder as the OEM ? Who issues the MSO (mfgrs statement of origin) ?
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08-30-2006, 04:41 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by max49:
Who issues the MSO (mfgrs statement of origin) ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The coach builder since they deliver the completed vehicle.
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08-30-2006, 05:23 PM
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I didn't title my coach in the state I bought it. I got 2 manufacturers certs of origin with my coach. One for the chassis and one for the body. When I titled the coach 10 months later I had to turn both certs in.
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08-30-2006, 05:47 PM
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Thanks Tom and Driver. I guess that makes sense since the body builder makes it titleable. Still it seems the chassis builder makes the foundation for the home, so it definitly originated there.
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08-31-2006, 08:29 AM
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The meaning of OEM depends on your point of view. For example; When I buy a car I am the customer of the dealer, when the dealer buys the car to re-sell, they are the customer of the auto manufacturer (I am the auto manufacturers customer also). This keeps going back till someone digs the steel out of the ground, and even then its not over. The miner is a customer of someone that supplies the mining equipment.
To me an OEM is someone who made the original parts for something. If I want an OEM axle for my Jeep, I can go to Jeep, or to DANA the OEM for that axle. If I didn't do that it would be a "third-party" product, or "aftermarket".
Fleetwood, OEMs Pace Arrows, however to produce this OEM product they combine the parts of other OEM producers.
Usually there is a quality assurance that goes with using OEM products.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">From Wikipedia:
An original equipment manufacturer (frequently abbreviated "OEM") is a company that builds products or components which are used in products sold by another company (often called a value-added reseller, or VAR). An OEM will typically build to order based on designs of the VAR. For example, a hard drive in a computer system may be manufactured by a corporation separate from the company that markets and sells the computer, or a loudspeaker in a stereo system made by a company that specializes in audio manufacturing.
In some usages, a VAR is sometimes called an OEM, despite this being a complete reversal of the literal meaning of both terms. This misunderstanding arises from use of the term OEM as a verb. For example, a VAR might say that they are going to OEM a new product, meaning they are going to offer a new product based on components from an OEM.
In the automotive industry, status as an OEM is a legal identification. OEM status (in the United States) signifies that the company's automotive products have been tested and validated according to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard and Department Of Transportation regulations. Examples of OEM automobile companies include General Motors, Ford Motor Company, and Toyota. The last remaining small OEM automobile company in North America is Saleen, Inc.. Small "tuner" companies do not qualify for automotive OEM status as they do not bear legal liability for vehicle safety or performance.
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09-02-2006, 12:32 PM
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If you can't title the chasis then the completed first title-able vehicle is assembled by the OEM. GM has hundreds of sub-contract manufacturers who contribute parts but the final vehicle is the one that is title-able. It has always been an anomaly in the RV industry to refer customers to their chasis, refridgerator, tire, microwave etc manufactures to settle warranty work.
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09-02-2006, 01:18 PM
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A year ago we had a thread addressing this from a little different angle. I posted the following comment, part of a larger posting. Problem is, I don't think the "powers-that-be" understood my point:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Red, I couldn't agree with you more. The problem as I see it (just my opnion you factory reps) is that there is not TOTAL ownership of the quality of the rig after it is built. "That's the chassis manufacturer's problem" or "That's the coach manufacturer's problem". We all hear that frequently. The only place where total ownership of the problem comes together is with us, the buyers. Then we inherit the problems, whether they be ride issues, power issues, stability, safety, fit and finish, on and on.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The original post
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