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Jimco · 12-02-2008, 08:42 AM

I have spent way too long reading the searches I found on the oil filter subject and I am NOT wanting to start another debate please. Can I ask for the following to be ratified please so I can begin to change my own oil under my 2002 Southwind 32V:

Napa Gold 1 quart is #1060
Napa Gold 2 quart is #1794
What is Napa Gold #7099?
OE Delco(1/2 quart)is #PF454
Delco 1 quart is #PF1218
Delco 2 quart is #PF932F
Wix 1/2 quart is #57099
Wix 1 quart is #51060
Wix 2 quart is #51794
What is Wix #5179MP or #5160?

With the exception of this 8.1 I own all Ford trucks, 1/2 and 1 ton. I use only Motorcraft filters primarily because of the excellent silicone anti-drainback valve I think is important on these vehicles. Am I to understand this is not important on the 8.1 because of it's mounting orientation? In any case I should always fill the filter with oil before I screw it on?

I am an electrical contractor so I have this dumb question - what is Dino oil?

Thanks for your help.

Jimco · 12-02-2008, 08:42 AM

I have spent way too long reading the searches I found on the oil filter subject and I am NOT wanting to start another debate please. Can I ask for the following to be ratified please so I can begin to change my own oil under my 2002 Southwind 32V:

Napa Gold 1 quart is #1060
Napa Gold 2 quart is #1794
What is Napa Gold #7099?
OE Delco(1/2 quart)is #PF454
Delco 1 quart is #PF1218
Delco 2 quart is #PF932F
Wix 1/2 quart is #57099
Wix 1 quart is #51060
Wix 2 quart is #51794
What is Wix #5179MP or #5160?

With the exception of this 8.1 I own all Ford trucks, 1/2 and 1 ton. I use only Motorcraft filters primarily because of the excellent silicone anti-drainback valve I think is important on these vehicles. Am I to understand this is not important on the 8.1 because of it's mounting orientation? In any case I should always fill the filter with oil before I screw it on?

I am an electrical contractor so I have this dumb question - what is Dino oil?

Thanks for your help.

CJBROWN · 12-02-2008, 09:07 AM

Jimco,
I would stick with Wix, Hastings, Dondaldson, AC Delco, or Amsoil eA filters. Napa Gold are made by wix, Donaldson makes the Amsoil filters. These are the brands of known good quality and reliabilty.

The Amsoil filter is the most advanced, it's a new filtering medium developed by Donaldson and out filters everything out there - comparable to a bypass filteration system. Really only recommended for extended drain intervals with synthetic oil.

Sorry, can't help you with the cross referrence, Oemy may be able to do that for you but it's probably not necessary as whatever you buy will have an applications chart.

Dino oil is petroleum based motor oil as opposed to synthetic. Unfortunately, not all oils are created equal, dino or synthetic, so it's really difficult to compare. Pretty much if you use a properly rated oil (API) of the proper viscosity, and change it within the recommened OCI you'll be fine.

If you want to learn all there is to know about oils go here: www.bobistheoilguy.com

TandW · 12-02-2008, 09:10 AM

Dino oil was used in the Fredmobile about 2 eons back in time and today is the base from which virtually all motor oil is produced. Anti-drainback valves serve only to maintain a partially filled oil filter. There is no advantage to their use on a conventional GM 8.1 litre motor. Good luck!!

Tenn.Vol. · 12-02-2008, 12:08 PM

jimco, I just ordered my annal supply of Wix fitlers from filter1.com.
Another number you might add is the Wix Allison 1000 spin on filter,
# 57701 priced at $10.92. The price of the Wix 2qt. filter was $8.44.
All prices were of 10/28/08, free shipping. Tenn.

Full-Timers · 12-03-2008, 05:22 PM

I've been using the Napa Gold 7099.

DAN L · 12-03-2008, 11:36 PM

the napa 7099 is a short filter.
i use the delco 2 qt filter from oemy or the napa 2 qt filter.

Full-Timers · 12-04-2008, 06:15 PM

What advantage is the 2 qt filter?

edgray · 12-04-2008, 06:24 PM

you know, the title of this topic offers a hint with the word "again". Using the "FIND" button and entering the words "2 quart filter" returned 41 posts where this issue has been answered and argued before. Must we really start again? ED

DriVer · 12-05-2008, 08:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Full-Timers:
What advantage is the 2 qt filter? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Full-Timers, In my opinion, none really. It simply consumes an additional quart of oil and uses more resources to make the filter. I have not seen documentation regarding the 2Q filter type that has provided sufficient or any scientific data that it filters our oil any better than a PF454 shorty given the recommended oil change interval.

I went the mid-route and went with the NAPA 1060 1quart. Now it makes all the sense in the world to me to use the 1 quart because I can simply add 7 quarts of oil and I do not have a 1/2 quart of oil sitting in my storage compartment. Have you ever found yourself tying not to add too much oil from the 7th quart?

Again for me no scientific hard data other than strictly convenience. I will however choose to use the NAPA Gold filter because for my money I believe it to be a very good filter.