Ultrapower Evaluation (Part 2)

[Ultra RV Products]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Geechee:
oemtech'

Since the group seems about 50-50 on having or not having the upgrades,the potential for 100% of all 8.1L going into WCC chassis to have the upgrade. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Geechee,

I just used your numbers! I was reffering to those on this website.

[Geechee]

So the number of WCC units having UP installed "Is" not greater than 50/50 as you posted?

[Marty & Yani]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Geechee:

Mike,

Are you saying that over 50% of all the MH's sold on a WCC have paid for your UltraPower ECU upgrade?

Geechee </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Geechee, I can't believe that you stated this and if your honest with yourself you know your numbers were pulled out of a hat . We are talking about this forum .
Marty

[Marty & Yani]

Mike, I guess there is something positive about this it keeps the topic on top .
Marty

[475]

GEECHEE, He just used the same example as you did, 50% of the message board, where did he say it was 50% of all WCC produced?

I don't see any representatives from Banks that take their time, let alone an owner, to communicate with their consumers...that alone is really cool!!!!

[max49]

I say lets settle this the old fashion way instead of the lone butt dyno. Let's take one MH with U.P. and one without and see which one can get to the top of the mountain first. If I get smoked, I'll buy an Ultra Power.
Heck, we might be able to get a "Motorhome Racing Circuit" going. That'd be way cool.
Bring it on !! , Marty 'll like that

[Ultra RV Products]

Max,

I'll take that deal seven days a week & twice on sunday!

[max49]

Ok , I'm game, bring it! Like I said, I'll buy it if I see ya 'pulling' me!

[475]

shoot make it like the show pinks...lose the race, lose your ride!!!

[max49]

No , I'm not doing that, I'm just a 'show me' kind of guy. I just don'tlike to fork out that kind of money when I don't know if it would make a significant difference.
At Colorados altitude and mtns. not to mention wind, this is the perfect place to have more power.
Too bad Mike could'nt recruit some 'mobil' guys to come to us to install it.

[475]

I would think the dyno charts available on their website would be sufficient "show me" evidence...correct me if I'm wrong!

[max49]

No, and I give one example why.
In order to promote 4 cycle engines in motocross , The AMA (motorcycle, not medical) said 250 CC 4 strokes could race in the 125 CC class and 450 CC 4 strokes could rac the 250 class. They said they both put out the same HP which according to the dyno , they do. Well 2 cycle MX bikes are all but obsolete now. The 4 cycle develop power just off idle and pull thru 13,500 RPM. The 2 strokes develop power at about 7000 RPM and sign of at 9000.
I was a die hard 2 stroke guy til they 'showed me' at the track. No more 2 strokes for me now.

[475]

I know what you mean, I work at a Honda motorcycle dealership and have been riding/racing motocross for years and jumped on the 4 stroke bandwagon with a CRF450 in '02 and never looked back. Look at the pro class, not one 2 stroke on the starting gate anymore!!

Back to the point at hand however, we are not looking at dyno charts of two different powerplants, same exact engine only one is modified with the Ultrapower and the other is stock. I understand what you mean by not trusting dyno charts, as they can be misleading but between the charts and all the happy customers and their reports of much more power, it would be very hard to say that the Ultrapower is not doing what the dyno charts say! Just my own opinion....

[YosemiteBobR]

Geechee:
What is your goal here. Do you have a vendetta against Brazels? Mike is not leaving the forum, everyone that has the UP is not giving it up, you have made your point disliking ultrapower in several ways over and over. Your negative attitude has made mine that much more positive. I just don't get it. It seems all you want to do is argue A race by the way sounds fine, but should be done on the salt flats not around other travelers.