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RV 4 2 · 08-29-2007, 05:58 PM

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By the way, how many of you have ever tapped your new oil filter out upside down onto a sheet of white paper? Ever hear of the tylenol scare? Think about it!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean there is Tylenol in oil filters??

Does that mean they are for high mileage motors to make them run better..

FrontRangeRVer · 08-29-2007, 06:29 PM

I took the advise of a few on here, and just completed my oil change with the NAPA Gold 1060 oil filter....it sure LOOKS nice!!!

TandW · 08-30-2007, 03:55 AM

RE: filters. Isn't it odd that a new air filter can be inspected before use. The modern self-contained oil filter can't be inspected except for the mounting threads and sealing gasket. Contaminants have been found in every assembly line, mass produced product ever made. Worker discontent plays a large part, as in fingers found in W....'. burgers. Bring back the original cartridge style oil filter and I will use it. Then I won't worry about crooked or incomplete threads or threads torn up by a worn tap or loose tret from worn stamping equipment. And the filter cannister will stand up to road hazards.

DriVer · 08-30-2007, 04:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by T&W:
Then I won't worry about crooked or incomplete threads or threads torn up by a worn tap or loose tread from worn stamping equipment. And the filter cannister will stand up to road hazards. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Retrogressing would be of little assurance that the filters would more worthy than a canister given that you can't see inside the filter media.

Personally, I'm appreciative of the fact that we've progressed beyond canister filter technology. That said, there remains a large installed base of canister type filters on modern equipment for any number of applications.

DonavonP · 08-30-2007, 05:15 AM

T and W you can still use a canister filter. http://www.wefilterit.com/

Not a good idea for the modern engine IMO.

olley · 08-30-2007, 06:54 AM

Hi 20 years ago when I worked on Bolnas dockside tugs (they drag the boxes around the port) they had straight 6 Scania engines fitted with centrifugal oil filters, we simply cleaned them once a month at service time. No other filtration was used, surprised nobody uses this method as it seemed to work well.

Olley

RustyJC · 08-30-2007, 07:12 AM

Centrifugal filters are used on large industrial engines, but as secondary (bypass) filtration.

Rusty

Soupy · 08-30-2007, 08:00 AM

I have been reading all the posts about oil filters.IMHO I like and have used for over 25000 miles,K&N performance gold oil filter.Heavy-duty canister(for rock&stone damage,550+psi brust strenght)To me the best is the 1" nut on bottom SO EASY to get OFF,no banged hands when filter wrench slips.Just use socket,extention and breaker bar,turn it off.The standard size#HP-1011,1 qt.#HP-3002.Yes the price is a little higher,but I feel the quality(made in USA)and the quick easy removal makes it worth it.

azloafer · 01-20-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by eandy

Isn't the real danger with filters made in China that they're painted with lead based paint?

That's why I don't let my grandkids chew on them!

speed racer · 01-21-2010, 07:45 AM

All GM engines have an oil filter presure bypass valve in them. At high RPMs and when the oil is cold an amount of oil is bypassing the filter. IMHO the more filter media the filter has to pass oil through the less will be bypassed.

DriVer · 01-21-2010, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by speed racer

All GM engines have an oil filter pressure bypass valve in them. At high RPMs and when the oil is cold an amount of oil is bypassing the filter. IMHO the more filter media the filter has to pass oil through the less will be bypassed.

One may also might attempt to make a case for any size filter in that if the oil is too viscous, it's only going to flow so fast therefore by-passing. The filter mounting's holes remain the same size and the pressure regardless of filter size remains constant whether a 1/2qt filter or a 2 qt filter is used.

Would that not be the case until the oil reaches a temperature where is begins flowing freely through the filter media?

TandW · 01-21-2010, 09:12 AM

Keep those filters changed out on schedule!! As the engine ages and tolerances, or dimensional clearances begin to open up or widen, so too are changes taking place in the oil pump which cause it to deliver less volume. There comes a time when the oil pump will not develop enough pressure to bypass. It is then that a clean filter is most important. My take on large filters is that in extremely cold environments they may not allow full flow as quickly as the standard filter. It also presents a larger target to road hazards!! Good luck!!

DriVer · 01-21-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TandW

It also presents a larger target to road hazards!! Good luck!!

TandW, This is what I have come to find out from some of my contacts that it was indeed a concern. It's refreshing to get the same scuttlebutt from an alternate source without asking for it.

Chuck 1935 · 01-21-2010, 12:04 PM

Speed racer is absolutly correct. The larger the filter the more crud can be filtered before it goes into the bypass mode. Always use the largest filter you can get. You can take this to the bank !!!