|
|
11-10-2015, 11:47 PM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 862
|
2011 F53 Triton V10...changing engine air filter
Is there a trick to opening the engine air filter box in order to replace the air filter? Admittedly, I didn't play with the air filter box for long, but I opened the front 3 clips thinking I would be able to just lift off the cover to gain access to the air filter, but the lid would only come open a little bit along the front. I felt around the back but didn't feel any other clips.
I didn't have time to figure it out and didn't want to force anything. What's the trick to opening that box to switch out the air filter?
Thanks
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
11-11-2015, 06:56 AM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 158
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ualdriver
Is there a trick to opening the engine air filter box in order to replace the air filter? Admittedly, I didn't play with the air filter box for long, but I opened the front 3 clips thinking I would be able to just lift off the cover to gain access to the air filter, but the lid would only come open a little bit along the front. I felt around the back but didn't feel any other clips.
I didn't have time to figure it out and didn't want to force anything. What's the trick to opening that box to switch out the air filter?
Thanks
|
I asked the same question about a month ago on one of the forums but didn't get much response. I battled with my air filter box for at least an hour and finally forced my way in. There are the clips in front and several mating slots/tabs in back. With the clips released I could NOT move the lid far enough to release the tabs. Next I loosened the ring clamp that holds the rubber air intake in place. However, the air intake on my model is designed so that it can't be pushed backward even with the clamp loosened ... still no easy lid removal. Finally I just started using brute force and a couple big screwdrivers. I distorted the lid so much I was certain it would break ... thank goodness it did not. It never did release all the tabs in back but I pried it open far enough to rip the old filter out. Getting the new filter in was more difficult since I did not want to damage it and it had to seat properly. What a pain! Probably one of the worst engineering designs I have ever seen. I think if they had simply reversed the back tab/slot arrangement it would have been possible to tip the cover up and pull forward. Next time if there ever is one I will forget about the "lid" and look at the bottom box. Maybe it would be easier to just leave the lid in place and remove the box instead!
__________________
Gary Orwig
2014 Tiffin Allegro Open Road 34TGA
|
|
|
11-11-2015, 08:54 AM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 862
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by gorwig
I asked the same question about a month ago on one of the forums but didn't get much response. I battled with my air filter box for at least an hour and finally forced my way in. There are the clips in front and several mating slots/tabs in back. With the clips released I could NOT move the lid far enough to release the tabs. Next I loosened the ring clamp that holds the rubber air intake in place. However, the air intake on my model is designed so that it can't be pushed backward even with the clamp loosened ... still no easy lid removal. Finally I just started using brute force and a couple big screwdrivers. I distorted the lid so much I was certain it would break ... thank goodness it did not. It never did release all the tabs in back but I pried it open far enough to rip the old filter out. Getting the new filter in was more difficult since I did not want to damage it and it had to seat properly. What a pain! Probably one of the worst engineering designs I have ever seen. I think if they had simply reversed the back tab/slot arrangement it would have been possible to tip the cover up and pull forward. Next time if there ever is one I will forget about the "lid" and look at the bottom box. Maybe it would be easier to just leave the lid in place and remove the box instead!
|
Thanks. I searched around the internet and a couple of RV forums and surprisingly not much info on how to accomplish this seemingly simple task. I was hoping to avoid removing the box from that round air intake, especially in the restricted space we have to work with. I guess I'll try using a little more brute force like you did and hope for the best!
|
|
|
11-14-2015, 09:38 AM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Altoona, Iowa
Posts: 1,668
|
I basically used the same procedure as gorwig. However, I did manage to get the top all of the way off so that I could replace the air filter. Took a lot of maneuvering around and using some brute force. Dumb design, but what can you expect out of Detroit Chassis?
__________________
2010 Itasca Sunova 33C, (lots of upgrades and modifications)
2011 Honda CRV, 2004 Rubicon (many modifications)
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
|
|
|
11-21-2015, 03:17 PM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,968
|
I used a similar procedure as the OP to remove the air cleaner cover. In addition I loosened the clamp on the hose and popped the hose off the cover. Then I pushed the top section to the rear and lifted it. Once the top half was out of the mating grooves I tilted it upward and pulled it forward to release the tabs on the rear from the slots in the lower half.
It took about 15 minutes to remove the cover, clean out the dust and dirt, replace the filter, reinstall the cover, and reattach the hose. No brute force was required, just a little finesse.
__________________
Hikerdogs
2013 Adventurer 32H
|
|
|
11-21-2015, 08:51 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 862
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hikerdogs
I used a similar procedure as the OP to remove the air cleaner cover. In addition I loosened the clamp on the hose and popped the hose off the cover. Then I pushed the top section to the rear and lifted it. Once the top half was out of the mating grooves I tilted it upward and pulled it forward to release the tabs on the rear from the slots in the lower half.
It took about 15 minutes to remove the cover, clean out the dust and dirt, replace the filter, reinstall the cover, and reattach the hose. No brute force was required, just a little finesse.
|
Thanks for that! Printed out as reference : )
|
|
|
11-22-2015, 07:45 AM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 158
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hikerdogs
I used a similar procedure as the OP to remove the air cleaner cover. In addition I loosened the clamp on the hose and popped the hose off the cover. Then I pushed the top section to the rear and lifted it. Once the top half was out of the mating grooves I tilted it upward and pulled it forward to release the tabs on the rear from the slots in the lower half.
It took about 15 minutes to remove the cover, clean out the dust and dirt, replace the filter, reinstall the cover, and reattach the hose. No brute force was required, just a little finesse.
|
There must be slight variations in the mounting of the air filter box. On mine there is absolutely no way to "pop the hose off the cover." Even with the hose clamp loose there is NO give. The cover has shoulders to keep the hose from moving forward into a sensor and the hose itself is so stiff it might as well be metal. I did not remove the engine doghouse inside to see if I could manipulate the air intake hose from the other end, though. As I said, for my motorhome if there is a next time, I will concentrate on the air filter box rather than the lid. I will either remove it from its bracket or I will remove the bracket so that I can just drop it down. However, I'm happy to hear that you could change your filter without too much trouble. Hopefully there are more out there like yours rather than mine!
__________________
Gary Orwig
2014 Tiffin Allegro Open Road 34TGA
|
|
|
07-07-2017, 02:58 PM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lowell, Arkansas
Posts: 7,301
|
Decided to change the air filter on the F-53 today. Couldn't find any magic solution on any of the forums. The best answer was to use brute force.
Got after it and it took about 2 minutes. The secret is knowing exactly how it fits together so you know exactly how to release the lid.
There are 3 metal clips on the front. Once they are off one can gently pry the lid up about 1/4" to 1/2" and that's it. The lid has three elongated holes on the back which fit into three tabs on the base housing that stick out towards the rear.
Here's what I did.
When trying to get this lid up it comes up on the left side (as you face the RV) easier than it does on the right side. So work from your left to the right.
Release the three metal clips. Gently lift the lid (left) and push it back at the front left corner. You might also pull the rear of the base housing gently forward. Once the first left hole in the lid is far enough from the tab on the base the lid will come up some more. Do that same thing again for the second hole and tab. Once two are released the last one comes off more easily.
The lid may did not come all the way off but high enough so the filter came out towards the right or passenger side.
The tabs on the lid with the elongated holes are thin and flexible. One might be able to reach around the back and bend them towards the rear to get them to release from the tab they are in which holds them down.
__________________
TeJay Auto Instructor/4-yrs USAF/ Liz: RN/ WBGO 2014 Vista 30T/ F-53/CHF/5-Star/Koni * Bella & Izzy * Golden /Cocker mix/ Louie The Cat* All Retired
|
|
|
07-08-2017, 12:24 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lowell, Arkansas
Posts: 7,301
|
I posted to this thread last night. It said that the thread was to old but I posted anyway. This afternoon when I got on the forum I didn't see that the old thread was brought back to life. So I started a new thread on how to install the air filter on our F-53's.
Then when I just went on both threads came up. Sorry for the repeat. There is a better description of how I figured out how to change the filter on the other thread.
R&R Air Filter on F-53 V-10 - Solved the problem!!
There will also be some updates on the thread above. I'll add the updates if and when an administrator allows me to make the changes. I missed the 30 minute window.
__________________
TeJay Auto Instructor/4-yrs USAF/ Liz: RN/ WBGO 2014 Vista 30T/ F-53/CHF/5-Star/Koni * Bella & Izzy * Golden /Cocker mix/ Louie The Cat* All Retired
|
|
|
07-13-2017, 05:42 PM
|
#10
|
Member
Monaco Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner Heartland RV Club
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Redding, Ca.
Posts: 97
|
Wish I had rear this before replacing my filter about a year ago. Got the job done and installed a K&N air filter while I was at it. Also installed the 5 Star for better performance...very satisfied with that mod.
Thinking about other things to do like the Banks Intake system?? Anyone have any feedback on $$$ investment?? My rig is a 2004 F53 with V10 two valve and on;y 29K miles. Banks has some other mods, but my budget is limited.
Thanks to all
Paul
|
|
|
07-02-2018, 09:42 AM
|
#11
|
Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Bedford, Virginia
Posts: 65
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ualdriver
Thanks. I searched around the internet and a couple of RV forums and surprisingly not much info on how to accomplish this seemingly simple task. I was hoping to avoid removing the box from that round air intake, especially in the restricted space we have to work with. I guess I'll try using a little more brute force like you did and hope for the best!
|
Loosen front clips lift and push back on left side....a knuckle buster but the only way.
|
|
|
07-02-2018, 11:22 AM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lowell, Arkansas
Posts: 7,301
|
Read post #9 above and follow the link to the original the original post explaining how to do it.
It is really an easy no brute force method once you understand how the top is held in place.
Once you understand it's literally a 30-60 second R&R.
__________________
TeJay Auto Instructor/4-yrs USAF/ Liz: RN/ WBGO 2014 Vista 30T/ F-53/CHF/5-Star/Koni * Bella & Izzy * Golden /Cocker mix/ Louie The Cat* All Retired
|
|
|
07-09-2018, 06:40 PM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Big Bear Lake, Ca
Posts: 915
|
I had a neighbor help me and it took him about a minute 2014 F53 ACE. He undid the clip and the removed the nose one for the box. There is a small clasp on the front and rear of the nose cone. Walla, filter box open.
__________________
2004 CRV TOAD/1990 WRANGLER TOAD ROCK BUILT
|
|
|
07-09-2018, 11:38 PM
|
#14
|
Junior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner Entegra Owners Club Jayco Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Buckeye, AZ
Posts: 7
|
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|