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computerguy · 05-18-2022, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by twinboat

What about a used engine ?

We discussed it I’m just not interested.

edge68474 · 05-18-2022, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by computerguy

They can look further. They think it is bad money spent just for knowing as Ford says it’s out of warranty. I’m not interested in spending money to maybe say Ford is at fault then have to spend time and maybe more money to pursue that route. If someone wants to fund that I can still go forward with replacing it and then they can look into why. But I’m not paying for that extra bit. Just not worth it IMO.

No, I would probably not spend any more than you have to either. I'm just saying it would be nice to know what happened. Do a little research here in the forum on the exhaust manifold studs. Waiter21 has a write up on that I believe. What I got out of that writeup and from others is to use stainless steel. I have one broken off right now and maybe more that I haven't seen yet. Common problem on these motors. Beings they have to attach the exhaust manifolds to the new motor, be sure they do all that is possible to NOT have any studs break. Just my opinion. Good luck and please come back and tell us how your new engine does. Oh, take a look at Jaspers website. I think you will like what you read. Take care.

JIMBO34PA · 05-18-2022, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by computerguy

2015 F53 Chassis V10 misfiring on a number of cylinders, loss of power, solid engine light then as slowing starts to blink then slow to a5 mph light goes out and still low power and also like a rattling noise (maybe misfiring?). I80 in Nebraska.
Codes:
P0302, 304, 305, 307. 310, U100 and I think some more but that's all my pic captured. All the misfire codes had a "PENDING FAULT" while the U100 and after did not have that so I wonder if those were prior ones? I've never gone in and looked before so not sure.

Awaiting tow but looking for some ideas. I hate having work done 1000's of miles from home in the middle of nowhere by someone I have no history with. So, I'd like to have an idea going in what they should be looking for.
I found some posts on a bad fuel pump, dirty filter, vacuum hoses, coils and wires.

It's been 5 hours waiting for a tow (since 2PM Central). Thanks Saferide. Nothing good to say about them so far. Let's hope they can at least get me out of here before dark.

Thoughts appreciated!

Computerguy; Based on codes and your description of rattling something let go and was traveling to different cylinders. PLEASE PLEASE make sure the garage cleans, blows, shakes out the intake manifold throttle body and airbox. Not uncommon for debris to be stuck in the bowels of the intake and come out after new engine fired up. Also if they have exhaust down shake it out and might be able to determine what let go?

edge68474 · 05-18-2022, 03:31 PM

Thank you Jim for that information. I like info coming from your type of people. Much appreciated.
Computerguy will probably see your suggestion.
Take care.

bigb56 · 05-18-2022, 03:51 PM

I hate to bring this up but is there any chance the engine was over-revved coming down a grade in too low of a gear? I'm not even sure if the newer transmissions will allow this, but I suspect it will. I know you can't shift into too low of a gear for your current speed but I am not so sure this works if you put it into a low gear while moving slow then coast up to a higher speed, it didn't on my old GMC and I ended up kissing valves coming down a steep grade in Arkansas at 2:00 AM half asleep.
Being that this happened outside of Denver there are some steep grades around there.

computerguy · 05-19-2022, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bigb56

I hate to bring this up but is there any chance the engine was over-revved coming down a grade in too low of a gear? I'm not even sure if the newer transmissions will allow this, but I suspect it will. I know you can't shift into too low of a gear for your current speed but I am not so sure this works if you put it into a low gear while moving slow then coast up to a higher speed, it didn't on my old GMC and I ended up kissing valves coming down a steep grade in Arkansas at 2:00 AM half asleep.
Being that this happened outside of Denver there are some steep grades around there.

Is it possible? Sure. But I am under impression the computer will not let the engine over rev using Tow/Haul
Mode. I am pretty sure I read that somewhere probably in this forum. I’ve had it for 7 years so I don’t recall where I read I now though. There is no red line on the tachometer so that adds to my belief. But I could be wrong. If I’m wrong someone with facts about the V10 please add them here
I came over Monarch Pass a few days earlier at 11,300 feet.
If so I caused the problem myself and makes it that much harder to swallow the $18k fix.

computerguy · 05-19-2022, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JIMBO34PA

Computerguy; Based on codes and your description of rattling something let go and was traveling to different cylinders. PLEASE PLEASE make sure the garage cleans, blows, shakes out the intake manifold throttle body and airbox. Not uncommon for debris to be stuck in the bowels of the intake and come out after new engine fired up. Also if they have exhaust down shake it out and might be able to determine what let go?

They are recommending a new intake at this point. They being Jasper and the repair facility. I think they said it’s about $700. Part of what Jasper calls installation packs I believe.
Ince the engine is removed I may be in a better mindset and ask them to strip the top off the engine for a little more investigation. Right now I’m not so inclined.

tiffy2000 · 05-19-2022, 12:52 PM

Make sure you change all the sensors that Jasper recommends, I read of an instance where Jasper allegedly didn't honor the warranty because the owner didn't change the recommended sensors when the engine was swapped out

SergioP · 05-19-2022, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by computerguy

Is it possible? Sure. But I am under impression the computer will not let the engine over rev using Tow/Haul
Mode. I am pretty sure I read that somewhere probably in this forum. I’ve had it for 7 years so I don’t recall where I read I now though. There is no red line on the tachometer so that adds to my belief.

Sorry about your misfortune. Lots of these engines go 100k miles without any problems. Who knows why yours didn’t. Bad valve, valve spring, valve keeper?You can’t win the lottery but you can get a defective engine, that ain’t right.

I don’t understand why Ford doesn’t put a redline on the tach. I understand the transmission will shift before the redline should be, but if holding it in 4th gear you can rev it til it hits the limiter.

I’m going to put a piece of red tape on the tach, probably at 5k rpm mark.

computerguy · 05-19-2022, 08:38 PM

I am thinking the thread title should be changed from misfires to self destructs. Maybe an admin can make that change?

HarryStone · 05-19-2022, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by computerguy

I am thinking the thread title should be changed from misfires to self destructs. Maybe an admin can make that change?

Done.

computerguy · 05-20-2022, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tiffy2000

Make sure you change all the sensors that Jasper recommends, I read of an instance where Jasper allegedly didn't honor the warranty because the owner didn't change the recommended sensors when the engine was swapped out

What sensors would not be included in a new engine?
I’m doing everything recommended so far. If they recommend something after the fact and didn’t included it in the original estimate there will be a little bit of a discussion on that.