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Old 10-25-2021, 12:59 PM   #1
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2021 Thor Ford 7.3L V8 Catalytic Stolen Sub Straight Pipe Ok?

I brought unit in to have some warranty work done and while there every RV convertor was stolen one night. Its an Hour drive away. Question is does the 2020 V8 7.3L have any sensor(s) in the convertor? Can I put in a temporary straight Pipe replacement with no engine problems so I can get it home or maybe use it yet? Convertor on Back Order.
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Old 10-25-2021, 01:04 PM   #2
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Yes, there is a sensor in the catalytic converter. I don’t know the consequences of driving without the sensor.
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Why isn't the repair facility replacing the cat that was stolen on their property. Their ins should pay for it.
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Camping World Says their documents say its NOT Covered. I asked for them to send those docs. Nothing yet.
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Ask for the name of their insurance carrier and submit a claim.

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Contact your own insurance carrier.

They should cover the cost and go after camping world if its worth it to them.
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Yep.. you can straight pipe.. just zip tie o2 out of way.. you will see check eng light come on.. just ignore it.. like 99 million owners do.. then when parts come in.. the shop can clear codes.. there will be no damage..
But.. while waiting for parts.. you can experiment a little.. nothing big.. if you are handy .. go to nearest auto parts store and grab a cheap glass pack straight flow muffler.. about 30.00 each. And turn down style exhaust tip.. for 10.00 .. now it will be loud.. because all the noise is being dumped under coach instead of to sides..
But.. see if... it has more zip.. if.. it runs better.. hit the on ramp and check acceleration
You can take time.. experiment.. try mufflers that are quieter.. and bypass hole where cats where.. until you get the sound and performance you like.. there are ways to bypass rear o2 sensors for less than 30.00 ea if you choose..
See if you think.. all that chat.. about cats robbing power or not.. is true or faults..
If it turns out you like rv without cats and power killer oem mufflers.. just collect your new parts that were stolen and pass them on to new owner down the road to put back on..
If they still have gas...
Good luck and let us know what you did and maybe better members then me will help you
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Old 10-25-2021, 09:19 PM   #8
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There’s an oxygen sensor both before and after the converter. The after sensor measures converter efficiency by allowing th engine computer to calculate how much oxygen is consumed in the converter. If the converter is missing, no additional oxygen is consumed, and you will get a check engine light. Not sure anything worse will happen.

You may find it impossible o get anyone to make a converter bypass pipe. Disabling emissions equipment is a class C felony under federal law. People who are certified and or want to keep their jobs or heir businesses are unlikely to participate.
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Can I put in a temporary straight Pipe replacement with no engine problems so I can get it home or maybe use it yet?
Getting a temp section fabricated shouldn't be a problem. You'll need to measure the total length, plus a couple of inches overlap, and the pipe diameter. Head on down to the local exhaust fabrication shop and tell them what you need but not so much why you need it. and you'll need the ends enlarged so you can slide it over the original and the clamp it in place. You're just replacing a damaged section and waiting on back ordered OEM material to effect permanent repairs.

Depending on how much extra pipe was removed the down stream O2 sensor may or may not be present. You'll probably a money light on the dash for the missing sensor but the engine should run well enough to get the rig home and and to the repair center. Fuel trim levels will be out to lunch and the idle might be ruff but once the cat is replaced and you drive it the system should reconfigure and reset the trims.
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If you use a temporary fix.. it would be interesting to see if still passes sniffer test.. I would say it will .. I bypassed everyone of my vehicles and pass sniffer.. well with in limits.. a good running eng will pollute less.. I believe cats are not needed on engines that run well..
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Fix it correctly. We all want to breath cleaner air.
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Yep.. you can straight pipe.. just zip tie o2 out of way.. you will see check eng light come on.. just ignore it.. like 99 million owners do.. then when parts come in.. the shop can clear codes.. there will be no damage..
But.. while waiting for parts.. you can experiment a little.. nothing big.. if you are handy .. go to nearest auto parts store and grab a cheap glass pack straight flow muffler.. about 30.00 each. And turn down style exhaust tip.. for 10.00 .. now it will be loud.. because all the noise is being dumped under coach instead of to sides..
But.. see if... it has more zip.. if.. it runs better.. hit the on ramp and check acceleration
You can take time.. experiment.. try mufflers that are quieter.. and bypass hole where cats where.. until you get the sound and performance you like.. there are ways to bypass rear o2 sensors for less than 30.00 ea if you choose..
See if you think.. all that chat.. about cats robbing power or not.. is true or faults..
If it turns out you like rv without cats and power killer oem mufflers.. just collect your new parts that were stolen and pass them on to new owner down the road to put back on..
If they still have gas...
Good luck and let us know what you did and maybe better members then me will help you
I would never want to exhaust under any vehicle. I once has a tailpipe break while pulling a travel trailer with a gas powered truck and after about 20 miles the gasoline in the tank started to boil. Good thing a passer by flagged me down and told us gasoline was boiling out of the fill spout. Had to stop and get a shop to fix it before we could continue travels.

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Yes.. fix exhaust leaks.. they can burn vehicles to ground.. this is why I suggested that you use exhaust turn downs.. not to just let hot exhaust to flow over bottom of chassis.. the turn downs direct flow where one points them.. hopefully people have enough common sense to not point them at gas tank....
I also said.. temporary fix.. just to experiment.. until parts and repair can be made..
If owners keep there engines in well tune.. they will not pollute..

Many misconceptions about federal epa law..
You only can be charged If You pay some one to tamper with smog equipment..
Or accept payment to tamper with smog equipment..
If you own it.. it is yours.. you can do what ever you want to your vehicle..
The way government gets around ownership rights.. is say.. you do not own the plates..
And therefore you have to pass what ever requirement the local government makes to qualify for new plates..
Unless op paid thief to steel cats.. there is no way to he could be a criminal..
SO if anyone here wants to read and post the smog laws.. do so.. but everyone should read it for them selves.. and look at language where it talks about paying for or receiving payment for.. removal or tampering with the smog equipment.. and one can see why business owners are so touchy about smog equipment..

SO if yours gets legitimate stolen.. you are not the criminal.. you just need to make sure you can get plates.. and that makes someone else's action our fault.. not criminal.. just have to make repairs to pass and get plates..

We need a new law.. because this is just getting too common..
If you get your cats stolen then the law should say.. you are exempt from smog laws..
This is costing us billions to get repairs and to pass very archaic laws..
Today's modern efi engines and fuels.. pollute less.. and smog testing really does nothing but cost the consumer..
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