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10-29-2020, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by edegenhart
I would check with the Ford dealer. I have a Newmar Baystar and it has a ford F53 chassis. I bought it new and the chassis and drive train from Ford had a 3 year 50k mile warranty. You should be covered under warranty.
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The F53 comes with a five year warranty...including towing!
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10-29-2020, 06:45 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Colorado High Country
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Originally Posted by Arch Hoagland
How was the new Ford engine for noise? And is it a high revving engine like the V10 was?
Overall how did you like it....minus the wire problems of course.
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Aside from that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
Sorry, just couldn't resist.
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10-29-2020, 07:20 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Manchester, Tn
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Hundreds of people maybe thousands are having the same problem, I think this may qualify as A FORD BETTER IDEA! It’s what happens when you out source to the lowest bidder, FRAMS OLD COMMERCIAL, PAY ME NOW OR PAY ME LATER should’ve been what Ford was thinking. New modern thinking bean counters running the show.
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10-29-2020, 09:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 154
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Originally Posted by JoyceJam
I have 3 wires at Will Call at my local Ford agency. They were only $13, not the $24 as reported in the video. I haven’t had any issues, but I felt it was cheap insurance. FYI - I’ve seen them for less online, but I wanted to have them on hand and from Ford.
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Pretty sure the $24 included shipping priority from Florida to Colorado.
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10-30-2020, 07:35 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 86
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It's hard to believe that during the testing phase for this engine this issue was not discovered. Ford either doesn't test very much , or they ignored there test results.
Typically. Rush things to market and fix your design flaws in the field..
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10-30-2020, 10:32 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
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Everything has been under warranty. I also have a lemon law claim filed in Florida. I'm going to give it a little wait to see if a true fix comes available.
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10-30-2020, 10:36 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
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We love the coach. The only thing I would have changed is getting a queen bed instead of the king. I miss the nightstands
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10-30-2020, 02:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 693
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Originally Posted by Mikes2000
My wife and I in June 2020 purchased a 2021 HR Vacationer 35K.
This is equipped with the new Ford 7.3 gas engine.
We purchased it in Florida, and drove it home to Illinois. 5 miles from the dealer the alternator went out. Delaying our return by 3 days.
We had a trip planned for 2 wks after we got home. A couple of days before we were to leave, I drove about 5 miles to fuel the coach. While driving there my check engine light started flashing, the motor ran rough and seemed to backfire slightly. I took it to my local Ford dealer. I was told it needed a spark module and spark plug wire. The parts were on back order, but we had them in 3 days (from another dealer). Before we were able to take our trip it happened again. And again 2 more times. After some searching there seems to be a design flaw causing the plug wires to get burned by the exhaust. Its October now, and we're still waiting for parts. A Florida lemon law case has been filed. Has anyone else had a problem with this engine?
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This is just the tip of the ice berg.
Wait a few more months and see what
else they did wrong with this junk motor.
I tell everyone never purchase a first year design.
They rush into production without testing it properly.
The people who now have this junk are the test subjects.
They get stuck paying and are not able to enjoy what they are paying for. Many MH families have lost part or even all of their 2020 camping season. This is a big problem and is very sad situation FORD created by not testing.
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10-30-2020, 02:52 PM
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This is a big problem and is very sad situation FORD created by not testing.
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Another possibility is that one article said this is only happening on motorhomes because the motorhome manufacturers did not follow the spec for the amount of cooling air flow needed. You know, because that could never happen...
Another article said a particular vendor did not build the wires to the design spec. Perhaps it was a combination of the two conditions and that would never be caught by any testing.
Eventually it will come out definitively.
Ray
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10-30-2020, 11:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Grand Rapids , Michigan
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It was in their pickup trucks first - that had nothing to do with motorhomes !
They , as usual with the big three , cost-cut way too much with a supplier - probably saved 10 cents a piece ; and now they have damaged their own reputation , for a while , as they are paying a lot more to rectify the results of poor management & QC .
I worked for a supplier of the big three for 23 years in product design. I constantly saw , first hand , 3rd world & other incompetent "engineers" they employ to cost-cut the quality right out of a good design & sit back & brag about saving 10 cents or whatever ! They wouldn't understand what quality & reliability is if it smacked them in their "who cares about the customer" / careless faces ! It doesn't matter to them when YOU are stranded out in the boonies !
( well , so much for my 23 years of aggravation & frustration ! )
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10-31-2020, 05:02 AM
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#39
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RELHUB
This is just the tip of the ice berg.
Wait a few more months and see what
else they did wrong with this junk motor.
I tell everyone never purchase a first year design.
They rush into production without testing it properly.
The people who now have this junk are the test subjects.
They get stuck paying and are not able to enjoy what they are paying for. Many MH families have lost part or even all of their 2020 camping season. This is a big problem and is very sad situation FORD created by not testing.
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Completely agree. NEVER buy a first year vehicle design. As a former auto mechanic, I can verify that they seldom get it right the first year. Come on Ford, you have been making gas engines for over 100 years now, bad spark plug wires, really??
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10-31-2020, 05:32 AM
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I would be very surprised if ford actually had an air flow around the engine specification . That would eliminate this engine from any marine applications. Gas engines in motorhomes definitely run hotter than pickup applications due to the constant load. But that's what testing is all about. Test in worst case condition.. that's why they do high temp testing in Arizona and cold testing way up north.
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10-31-2020, 05:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Safety Harbor, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edenns
I would be very surprised if ford actually had an air flow around the engine specification .
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Only thing I can find is in the body builder layout book page 22:
https://madocumentupload.marketingas...51f10&v5=False
It references "Design recommendations - Cooling System" that I can't find in their documents.
Also looks like they just put out a service advisory to increase engine airflow on the F53 by trimming a baffle up front:
https://madocumentupload.marketingas...3478e&v5=False
You can keep up with all of this here: https://fordbbas.com/vehicleModel/F53StrippedChassis
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10-31-2020, 07:32 AM
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 325
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So is Ford doing a recall for the spark plug wires?
Dave
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